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- From: jose@math.duke.edu (Greg Lawler)
- Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
- Subject: Re: 2/1 question
- Message-ID: <9126@news.duke.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 23:10:32 GMT
- References: <9101@news.duke.edu> <1993Jan26.182822.17803@linus.mitre.org>
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- In article <1993Jan26.182822.17803@linus.mitre.org>, bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
- > >I noticed that some people were discussing what to bid playing 2/1
- > >over a one spade opener with
- > >
- > > K x x x A x x x A K Q x x
- > >
- > >
- > >Excuse me for suggesting a reactionary idea, but how about a jump shift
- > >in clubs (strong) followed by a raise in spades.
- >
- > Not in 2/1 GF. 2C is strong and game forcing. Is it your contention
- > that 3C should be "more forcing?".
- >
- > The strong jump shift does not come up sufficiently often to justify
- > wasting a call (3C) in this way.
- >
- > You are wasting bidding room and duplicating calls if you allow
- > both 2C and 3C to mean a strong hand with clubs. [even though
- > I presume 3C would be stronger than 2C].
- > --
-
-
- It is not a waste of bidding room if one ends up
- describing one's hand. To bid
- 3C and then support spades shows: a) a 5+ clubs suit which is semi-solid
- as a source of tricks; b) 4 card spade support; c) interest in slam.
- It is very hard to show all of these if one starts with 2C.
-
- The original question asked what people did with the hand above.
- If you bid 2C and then support spades, this tends to show three card
- spade support and the fourth spade is never shown. If one makes a
- forcing raise in spades instead, one never shows the clubs as a source
- of tricks. This really is a hard hand to bid without strong jump shifts.
-
- It is quite acceptable to play 2/1 and strong jump shifts.
-
- I have seen a number of hands bid by experts which were made much
- more difficult than needed to be because they were unable to make a strong
- jump shift. These hands are often slam hands so they cost a lot at
- IMPS. I don`t jump shift a lot, I admit; but when I do I describe
- my hand very well and almost always get to a good contract. As I said
- before, I only jump shift on: self-sufficient suits, and hands with
- strong support and a good side suit. After the jump shift the only
- possible trump suits are opener's suit and responder's suit so no
- other suits need be bid naturally. (Of course, you might end up in NT).
- Key cards in responder's suit are shown immediately by the simple rule
- that you raise with a top honor and you don't raise without one.
- (Hence there is no key-card Blackwood in Responder's suit).
-
- It is true that by playing strong jump shifts, I give up other uses
- of 1S-3C. By a passed hand I play that 3C is a strong limit raise in
- spades with club cards.
-
- Greg Lawler
-