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- From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
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- Date: 23 Jan 93 01:59:10 GMT
- Subject: Re: What is so terrible about doubling offshape?
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- In article <1993Jan22.012601.10364@linus.mitre.org> bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
- |In article <1993Jan21.204655.25049@galois.mit.edu> boyiny@kovalevskaya.mit.edu (Professor Who?) writes:
- |
- |stuff deleted...
- |>
- |>Surely you jest. I know, you are not joking, which makes it even worse.
- |>Why is everyone so afraid of offshape doubles? The brainwashing really is
- |>complete. Bad things may happen. Tough, that is life, I expect to
- |>lose--lose big perhaps-- some of the time when I enter the auction, but I
- |>consider pass bordering on the criminal, no matter how many experts do it.
- |
- |Noone is afraid of making offshape doubles. There are SYSTEMS that
- |use them. But if you are going to make a **takeout** double, then you
- |MUST have support for unbid suits.
- |
- |Did it occur to you that experts play the way they do because long
- |experience has shown that this is what works? Nah! of course not.
- |
- |Noone has suggested pass on the given hand. 1S and 1NT are both
- |reasonable. But a double is ridiculous. You can't handle a diamond
- |response from partner. Being willing to "lose big perhaps" some of
- |the time is just plain losing bridge because it is unecessary.
- |
- |Your attitude is foolish. Experts play the way they do because
- |it works. Saying that you refuse to do something no matter how many
- |experts do it is silly.
-
- I agree with Bo-Yin here ... the attitude "don't do X because if situation
- Y happens, you'll be screwed" is just not going to make you come out ahead
- in the long run. This is a hold-over from the '30's, where no-trump openings
- denied a small doubleton, pre-empts were quite sound, etc. etc.
-
- There are plenty of experts who don't hold this attitude, despite what
- Bob claims ... witness esp. those who play forcing-pass and such systems,
- where fert bids abound, 8-counts are routinely opened (I'm not counting the
- fert as an opening), etc. etc. On first glance these systems are just
- BEGGING for disaster, and occasionally it happens. But they're willing to
- live with that, because of the benefits in other circumstances. Most of
- these experts, however, come from other countries, which may explain why
- Bob doesn't acknowledge their existence.
-
- ben
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- "Can't we all just get along?"
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