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- From: tracy@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Tracy Scheinkman)
- Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
- Subject: re: Horse color genetics program
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.202609.17973@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 20:26:09 GMT
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- In Article 11154 (10 more) in rec.equestrian:
- From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
-
- >Not that hard if you use the 'square' method. Just make a big square,
- >list possible variations of the mare vertically, possible variations
- >of the sire horizontally. Works great, takes a few minutes and the
- >margin of error is small.
- >
- > Bay stallion x Grey mare
- >
- >Stallion out of bay mare and chestnut stallion so genotype is almost
- >certainly Bc.
- >Grey mare out of chestnut mare and grey stallion, known to have produced
- >greys, chestnuts and bays, depending on what she is bred to. Genotype
- >almost certainly Ggcc
- >
- > Stallion Bc bc
- > _____________
- > M Gc | GBcc | Gbcc |
- > a _______________
- > r gc | cBcc | gbcc |
- > e _________________
- >
- >I think that's right, with this combination you get 50% grey, 25% Bay,
- >25% chestnut.
- >
- >Tracy, do I have it right?
-
- You sure do. The square method is the method I use when trying
- to figure out genetic possibilities. Just a few corrections though --
- make sure you do not run gene locuses together. For example in the
- case given above -- the Grey locus (G,g) the Bay locus (B,b) and the
- chestnut locus (C,c) are separate locuses (I'm using Sue's symbols, the
- Sponenberg book uses G for grey, A for bay, and e for chestnut).
- The horse examples given here have B?ccgg in the stallion's case for
- genotype and ???cGg for the mare. If the mare was chestnut when she
- was born before turning grey then her genotype would be ??ccGg, if she was
- bay before turning grey then her genotype would be B?c?Gg because the color
- you see on a baby when born is the color it would have been as an adult if
- the greying gene was not present. Grey is a gradual progressive color
- change. The above genotypes obviously require the use of an 8x8 square
- in order to predict the percentages correctly as all possibilities must
- be equally represented. The need for this is easily seen in the case of
- two horses who are totally heterozygous (meaning they have one of each
- gene possible at each locus):
-
- Stallion BbCcGg x Mare BbCcGg
-
- Genotype headers for columns and rows would be:
-
- BCG BCg BcG Bcg bCG bCg bcG bcg
- BCG
- BCg
- BcG
- Bcg
- bCG
- bCg
- bcG
- bcg
-
- Keep in mind that the letter symbols I am using here are Sue's
- symbols, not the common ones used in the Sponenberg book. There
- would be 64 squares and while many of them would have duplicate
- genotypes figuring out which genotypes represent which color and adding
- up the number of squares with each color will give you a good estimate
- of the chances for each color. When one or more gene is unknown things
- become more complicated still.
- The difficulty in physically drawing out the squares and filling
- each block is mountainous when dealing with more than 3 locuses and in
- those cases a computer program would be useful. Fortunately most questions
- involve no more than 3 locuses, and some of those involve horses that are
- known to be homozygous in one or more locuses, for example a chestnut
- is homozygous for chestnut and for non-grey, though we could tell nothing
- about the bay locus from just looking at the horse.
-
- Tracy and everybody
-