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- From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:52:05 GMT
- Subject: Re: Info on Rain Suit
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- I can't speak for back-east year round, but Northern California's
- edition of foul weather suits a goretex parka fairly well. We're
- getting rain (15 days continuous so far, but who's counting? :-)
- and temperatures ranging from the (very) low '40s to roughly 60 during
- the day.
-
- I'm using an REI goretex parka for the upper shell. I'll use the usual
- sets of layers underneath, and make liberal use of the adjustable
- armpit vents. Like all goretex, it's pretty breathable, though it
- can be overloaded (like this morning, with temps in the low '50s
- and me wearing too heavy a layer in the middle. Gotta dump the fleece
- sweater...). It hasn't leaked on me while I'm on a bike, though
- I've had it dump water in when I've used it while walking. It has
- a full hood, which I find a hindrance for a bike.
-
- I use a solid cloth cover for my helmet (currently a Pearl Izumi
- light cover over a V1 Pro, though I also have a Fez with reflective
- tape.) If it's cold and dry, I'll use a fleece balaclava, sometimes
- folded like a toque. When it's raining like hell, I have a cloth
- widebrimmed hat that gives me a bit of a visor effect. It does cut
- down my visibility, so I'm looking for something better.
-
- I also have a Hind urethane coated Transition shell that I'll carry along
- if it *might* rain, and the distance will be short, or if it's going to
- be so cold that I'm not too likely to have condensation. This is OK within its
- limitations. Pretty cheap from Nashbar.
-
- As far as lower body, I tried a few things:
-
- Urethane coated rain pants; waterproof for water from the outside, but
- all condensation won't go anywhere, either.
- Nylon tight weave wind pants; neither water tight, nor terribly breathable.
- Might be useful in dry, cold (sub-freezing) weather.
- Haven't tried goretex; I suspect it would be like a water-tight version of
- the wind pants, so not breathable enough for our conditions.
-
- For the best winter solution for me, I've settled on wool tights over
- bicycle shorts. I'm using the Performance superwash woolies, with no
- extra padding. Work OK, and are plenty warm, even in moderately cold
- weather. BTW, I'm riding 14 miles in daylight, and 20-30 in the evening
- right now. the only time I got cold in the legs was during a nasty
- storm, with a daily high of 41 F, and some 40-50mph winds. Not one of
- my favorite bike-riding days.
-
- I'm still looking for a good shoe solution; I prefer clipless pedals, and
- like my Sidi Revolution shoes, but staying warm in them is tough. The
- best solution so far is wool ragg socks, occasionally neoprene socks over
- (troublesome for me; I can't find neoprene sox big enoough for my size 14s)
- and over the shoes, Belweather booties. These, frankly, suck. they
- will stop mimimal moisture, don't insulate terribly well, have worn
- through at the toe where I have to put my foot down at some of the interminable
- lights (I'm not willing to try to learn to trackstand for a fully loaded
- commuter bike...). If I went without clipless, I'd use some form of
- foul weather boot. I've been thinking of trying to mount Look cleats on
- an old pair of hiking boots. :-) (BTW, more sins for the Bellweather booties;
- you cannot dry them in the dryer, and they will not dry overnight unless you
- park them over a heating vent.) (BBTW, I have spenco pads in the shoes; help
- give a little bit of insulation, and they block off the sole vent.)
-
- For gloves, I've settled on a few options. Most weather works pretty well
- with Nashbar's Storm Shelter glove. This has a Darlexx (sp?) backing and
- a thin neoprene pad. Not too thrilled with the leather fingers, though.
- They skipped leather for the #3 and 4 fingers, so you have to be very careful
- when wiping glass off the tires. If it gets a little colder, I have
- thermax glove liners.
-
- If it gets really cold, I'll haul out the Solar Alpha gloves.
- Goretex lined, though it's tough to get the cuffs *under* the
- parka. Very bulky glove, so it's a bear to work the controls. I have
- to anticipate braking well in advance. If it's in traffic, I'll
- keep my fingers over the break levers on my mountain bike/commuter.
- I've used ragg mittens, but they need a wind shell for really cold weather.
- Outdoor research sells a goretex overmit for skiing, but these were out of
- stock when I was looking for them after Christmas.
-
- Hope this helps.
-
- Pete Brooks
-