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- From: knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen)
- Subject: Re: Seek Atwater Kent Radio Info.
- Organization: AT&T
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:54:21 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.235421.24604@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
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- In article <1jt2lmINNl8k@umbc4.umbc.edu>, robie@umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie) writes:
-
- > work) an I violated every law of common sense in buying antiques ...
- > a) I got something I know NOTHING about (basically).
- > b) I bought something broken, with no idea that it can be fixed - or for how
- > much.
- > c) I bought something on an impulse.
-
- OK, you bought into a fascinating learning experience.
- And after buying lots of old radios, I suspect that "impulse" is the best guide;
- if a set "grabs" you, grab it back. The sets I regret buying are often ones
- I thought about for a while, and I still kick myself for passing up
- some ones that in my heart I knew I wanted.
-
- > with the idea of having it in my office (even if it doesn't work - yet). And
- > even if I overpaid for it (I suspect I did), I felt like the price we agreed
- > on was worth it to me. Now I want to find out a bit more about what I have
-
- Just having a nice old set on display is fun, especially where others can
- see it and talk about it. My books are at home, but I'd say your set
- "lists" at $80 - $100, maybe a tad more. Getting the speaker with it,
- with a still-decent cord, adds a lot to the value.
-
- The later A-Kents (AC operated, metal cabinets) aren't quite as valuable
- as the wooden, battery-operated jobs, but basically *any* A-K is quality
- stuff and collectors know it.
-
- > charm (to me) of the thing. The Atwater Kent emblem on the top, and the
- > bezel around the tuning "window" are both nice, *big*, solid, brass pieces.
-
- My A-K Model 47 has stamped sheet brass emblem, not as solid as yours,
- but the set sure is heavy to pick up.
-
- > Not little engraved "tags", but chunks of cast brass - more charm (to me). It
- > is the kind of thing that is elegant in its ugliness (I salivate over a
- > nice-looking '48 Plymouth ... get the picture?).
-
- You should just love late-20s console sets, with their carved legs, etc.
-
- > From the description and the numbers, are there any of you who can pinpoint
- > the date of mfg.? A couple of kind folks around here have mentioned that
-
- With my books I can get you within a year, and might have a schematic.
- And can find out if it's a TRF or superheterodyne.
-
- > is turned on. Since there are two places for this number tube, and since I
- > switched the two tubes around (the same one remained "dead" and the same one
- > remained aglow), I figure that the tube is definitely dead, deceased, extant,
-
- Your reasoning is superb, and yes the '45 is dead. And congrats on
- swapping it *only* into another socket of the same tube type.
- (BTW, antique radios are simple enuf in their circuitry that only some
- basic knowledge of electronics, plus good old logical reasoning like yours,
- is enuf to diagnose and repair many problems.)
-
- > Any ideas where I can find the aforementioned UX-245 tube?
- From another radio collector, or the place in Arizona (you must have
- got lots of email on this by now...)
-
- > that the one tube *might* be all standing between me and Atwater Kent sound.
-
- Quite possible. You've already "smoke-tested" the set, which strictly speaking
- you should not have done, but you got away with it, the set passed, so fine.
- However, I suspect that the set has push-pull output (the other '45 is right
- next to the bad one, right?) so you should get *some* sound if that's
- all that's wrong. Very likely your speaker or its cord and plug have
- an open-circuit fault in either the voice coil or power choke.
-
- > was kept in a fastidiously-clean environment. The light dust inside was not
- > enough to keep me from reading the numbers on the tags that identify which
- > tube should be installed in which socket. There were no black marks on or
-
- Those A-K "tin boxes" really did seal out dust. Most of the wooden lift-top
- cabinet sets have an inch of dust and two mouse nests inside.
-
- > I may need to get these, as well (healthy glow doesn't necessarily = healthy
- > tube), so I'd love to know price and availability for these.
-
- Usually if these old, direct-heated tubes light up, they'll play,
- tho maybe at reduced volume and sensitivity. I don't recall ever seeing
- a tube of your vintage that lit but didn't work. That's more than I can
- say of both newer and earlier tubes.
-
- > teeth on the brass gear to cut it. I'll try a simple piece of rubber tubing,
- > if I can't find an original replacement.
-
- You'll never find an original part, since any such would have hardened
- (or turned gooey) by now. Making your own is a good idea. Purists might
- try to make a new one shaped as much as possible like the original.
-
- Warning: If you get the set working, you may find it hard to
- stop at *one* old radio ^-)
- --
- "I don't think so, Al"
- knudsen@iexist.att.com
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