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- From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
- Newsgroups: misc.kids
- Subject: Re: Help with Spanking Alternatives
- Message-ID: <TIGGER.93Jan22173445@satyr.Sylvan.COM>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 01:34:45 GMT
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- Talking about 17 month olds...
-
- > I "spanked" them for the first time (slapped their hands) when, after
- > hours of "no touch!" from me concerning the Christmas tree lights, I came
- > into the room and found them playing with the lights AND my son had them
- > wrapped around his neck!
-
- You still need to control the enviroment with 17 month olds -
- actually, I still sometimes need to control the enviroment with my
- three year old - some things, like Mommy's scissors, are just so
- tempting that she has a very hard time not touching them. You need to
- guide them physically and verbally - 'no, you may not touch the tree'
- and take them away. And never leave them unsupervised around dangerous
- objects -- that will probably be the case for at least the next YEAR
- -- little ones don't have a strong sense of right and wrong, and what
- they see and feel like doing at the moment has more power than 1 hour
- of 'no's'. They really don't mean to be bad, they just don't
- understand.
-
- Like, those times when Katherine has touched my scissors, it's not to
- be 'bad', it's just that she wants to cut things. She (at age three)
- has some understanding of being destructive, and she hasn't tried them
- on furniture or her clothing (yet). So I tell her that when she wants
- to cut, to tell me and I'll give her her scissors. Unfortunately,
- they've been misplaced lately, thus her urge for my scissors is
- stronger. :-( The best thing I can do is to remember to put my
- scissors back into my sewing room (which she knows is off limits for
- kids w/o adults), thus I prevent an unnecessary conflict. Note that
- she has learned through repetition (with a gate across the door as a
- reminder and barrier for the baby) not to go into my sewing room.
-
- IMHO kids just try things and 'test' to learn about the world around
- them. As they grow and can do things they couldn't do before, they
- might test other things to see what they can or can't do now - they
- don't necessarily really understand which 'rules' will or won't
- change.
-
- --
-
- Tigger (Grace Sylvan) Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89,
- tigger@satyr.sylvan.com Corey 1/31/91; we loved him so,
- Robin Gregory born 2/28/92
-
- "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
- children become humane and strong."
-
- - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
-