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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:43:57 -0500
- From: Judi Mancuso <jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: Re: Potheads of the 70's Raising Kids
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- >>>
- >>>The one that I find amusing is past drug use. Bill Clinton has nothing
- >>>on the parents of today. Many parents have "re-written history" on
- >>>this subject - people who were serious dope smokers in the 70s will
- >>>tell their kids that they never touched drugs.
- >>
- >>And that's too damn bad, as well. If those same parents would be
- >>open and honest with their kids and tell them some of the horror
- >>stories and experiences they may have had while stoned or tripping
- >>or whatever, or while watching others do same, their kids might not
- >>be as eager to experiment.
- >>
- >>That is, of course, provided that the kids being told are of an age
- >>where they can understand, and have a good relationship with their
- >>parents bvased on honesty.
- >>
- >>In my experience, parents who try to make themselves seem all-knowing
- >>and holy only harbor resentment in their kids.
-
- I have thought about this quite often because my husband and I were real
- big pot smokers from the age of about 18 until around 25. I quit right
- before I conceived, he quit right after our son was born (8 years
- ago)--and our quitting was not this big deal--in fact, if his job would
- not be in jeporady because of it (mandatory unannounced drug tests)--we
- would probably use it recreationally here and there (although I would
- not have the slightest idea of where to get it now). We experimented
- with qualudes, hash and speed a few times but we did not have the money
- or interest to continue. Like some other posters, we did not have any
- BAD experiences with the stuff. Now, we are not advocating that we tell
- our kids that "hey, we had a great time with it, try it" or "we loved it
- but you should not do it" but I think there is a decent balance. I
- doubt that I would say "No, I never tried it". One interesting point
- here that my husband and I feel very uncomfortable with is *what* our
- son is learning about smoking and alcohol. We realize that drugs,
- cigarettes and alcohol are hurtful and dangerous when they are being
- abused--but to equate them all together is wrong. We drink socially--and
- it is not uncommon for us to have a wine or beer in the evening--or even
- have a bottle of wine with us while we watch TV or play games on the
- weekend. I was a smoker up until I conceived my daughter. Some of the
- most important people in our lives are smokers--they dearly love my
- children and they are special, wonderful people and they smoke. We
- allow smoking in our home--although we do not encourage it--sometimes my
- son's behavior while these people are smoking is terrible--"you are
- taking drugs", "cigarettes will kill you", "you are killing me"--while
- none of these are wrong (except the one about cigarettes being
- drugs)--what messages is he hearing himself here? That people he loves
- and who love him will knowingly and recklessly kill themselves or kill
- him? And, if these people can use "drugs" then it is okay for him to do
- drugs too? Although he is not as verbal about alcohol, he does recite
- similiar things when we or others are drinking in his presence. I am
- not really upset about the embarrassment he causes these people or
- myself--afterall, we are the adults here. But, I am deeply troubled by
- the messages being sent to him. I feel it is a little irrational to ban
- drinking and smoking (although I do encourage people not to smoke around
- the baby) around my son just so that we are not feeding into these
- messages that he is hearing from school. Now, I am by no means saying
- that there is this constant stream of smoking going on--because this is
- not the case at all--nor am I saying that drinking is abused in any way
- in our home----but it does go on occasionally and many times people we
- love dearly and people he loves dearly are doing it---enough said.
- As for the marijuana issue--I am sure we will have to face it one of
- these days. I do not want to be dishonest or hypocritical-- so I will
- probably handle it with a respect for what exactly he is asking and what
- level of understanding he has at that time. I have the same awful
- feeling about discussing premarital sex with my kids---hey, I did it,
- enjoyed it and can't really say that it ruined my life in any way---then
- again, AIDS wasn't really an issue and I had healthy relationships that
- included sex. I better not leave the subject here--it can really tie
- your stomach in knots just thinking about all the complex things we, as
- parents, can and will deal with as we move along this journey of
- parenthood. That is why this board is so fabulous---we are all moving
- along together. Judi Mancuso
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