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- From: cecchinr@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
- Subject: Re: The fittest people on the planet.
- Message-ID: <q3r3nb-@rpi.edu>
- Keywords: balance in life
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- Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:12:00 GMT
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- In article <1k75umINNpjk@mojo.eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
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- [stuff deleted]
-
- >In sports medicine, physiologists define fitness as the strength of your
- >heart, and it is measured by your VO2 max and by your recovery pulse rate.
- >These measurements can become dangerously low for bodybuilders who must
- >necessarily avoid aerobic exercise. They literally have no endurance. You
- >will never see a world-class bodybuilder out jogging, for example. Their
- >heart can't handle it. The V02 max of a competitive athlete whose sport is
- >sprinting or swimming can easily exceed the VO2 max of a bodybuilder twice
- >his weight. That should be enough to make anyone think twice about
- >becoming a bodybuilder.
-
- Well, I read through all the posts before I responded to this one. I won't
- respond to everything, because Rob already said alot of the things I wanted
- to.
-
- Anyway, you said some things I agree with, and some I didn't.
- Also, you still seem to flip-flopping between talking about
- professional bodybuilders and the rest of us.
-
- But I still disagree with your paragraph above. I don't think that
- the pros, or hardcore bodybuilders in general, don't run because of
- heart problems. I know for my self that running not only has an adverse
- effect on the knees and ankles, but it also is an antagonist to building
- muscle mass in the legs.
-
- And you know, I'd still be willing to put some of the pros up against
- your "fit" athletes. When the pros are not in competition mode, they're
- still doing lots of aerobics - 3, 4, 5 times a week is not unheard of.
- I can't believe that they have such poor aerobic capabilities...
-
- Also, "fit" to me means more than VO2 output. To me, if you can't
- bench twice your weight, squat 3 times your weight and leg press 4 times
- your weight - then you're not fit!
- [NOTE: The above figures were picked arbitrarily, since I can't even
- bench or squat those amounts (but I can do the leg presses!), and
- I think I'm at least "fit" - you get the point...]
-
- > . . .
- >
- >I think we are discussing two different things. You are discussing
- >bodybuilding, in general, whereas I'm discussing those bodybuilders who
- >strive to be world class.
-
- Maybe. But as I said, your speach is confusing. In your original
- post, you spoke of just bodybuilders. In this recent post, you
- still sort of switch back and forth between talking about the
- pros and then just bodybuilders in general.
-
- Ron
-
-