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- Subject: Re: MISSED MESSAGE ON DIS
- Message-ID: <C1DuDJ.9B2@eis.calstate.edu>
- From: pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane)
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:53:42 GMT
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- Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services
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- Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King) writes:
- [much deleted]
- >
- > If you think what I'm trying to do is have "control" over the students,
- > that is not how *I* view it. I view it as having a classroom where
- > learning is going on (this does not necessarily mean I'm standing at the
- > front of the room telling the students what they are supposed to learn),
- > and student behavior that disrupts this environment and makes it
- > difficult for learning to continue is not acceptable to me, or to the
- > other students. I have overheard other students talk about my class as
- > compared to other teachers on campus, and they say they LIKE it that
- > there is some sort of order established and that they can learn. In some
- > classrooms there is a sort of controlled choas, with noise, and the
- > teacher not maintaining any type of order. The kids don't like this.
- >
- [much more deleted]
-
- I wanted to highlight this, since I had been searching for words to say
- this myself, but hadn't figured out as articulate a way. As an elementary
- school teacher, I find it absolutely true that the kids can understand
- that the bottom line is to create an environment where learning can occur.
-
- I had hoped to write something like this in reponse to the teachers who
- were planning on coming up with 'class rules' with their students for the
- first time. In a school, we are all there to learn. This is the common
- ground that teachers and students have in order to work together to
- establish procedures.
-
- If learning is the primary goal for everybody, then students and
- teachers are not working at odds. Students of any age are aware that such a
- goal implies some sort of structure. As long as the goal is kept in mind,
- the reasons for the structure will be clear to everyone. A teacher who puts
- forth the effort to maintain this structure is not engaged with a struggle
- for control with his/her students. As in Sheila's case above, the teacher
- is working WITH the learning process, and therefore WITH the students by
- supporting their learning environment.
-
- In my own class, the structure varies considerably from one hour to the
- next, but the students are able to handle it because, to the greatest
- extent possible, the structure is suited to the goal.
-
- Paul MacFarlane
- Danville, California
- pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu
-