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- From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
- Subject: Re: Whats the smallest (readable) 24x80
- In-Reply-To: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:07:56 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.154902.25073@abo.fi>
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- Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
- References: <1993Jan20.030014.9216@crl.com> <1993Jan21.200756.28157@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:49:02 GMT
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- In <1993Jan21.200756.28157@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov writes:
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- > [Apologies if you see this twice. It doesn't seem to have gotten out
- > the first time.]
- >
- > In article <1993Jan20.030014.9216@crl.com> jc@crl.com (Jim Couch) writes:
- > >Subject line says it all. The hp95 looks like it would
- > >be awfully crammed to squeze in 24x80. Is there anything
- > >between the smallest full size laptop and the hp which
- > >would be both small and readable?
- >
- > "Readable 24x80" is a matter of some opinion. Others have posted
- > articles here describing highly squeeed text (*three* pixels/character
- > wide!) that manages to get an 80x24/25 display onto the hp95.
- > Personally, I just can't read it. My own minimum is a 5x7 character
- > in a 6x8 cell (just what the hp95 uses). Thus, you would need at
- > least a 480x200 display to get 80x25 characters. The old, standard,
- > CGA display, at 640x200 was able to do slightly better by using an 8x8
- > cell. An 8x10 or 8x12 cell makes underlining much nicer and keeps the
- > descenders on one line from touching the tops of tall letters below.
- > This happens on the hp95 a lot. I don't know of any machine with a
- > display that is significantly better than the hp95 (in terms of size),
- > but is still not a full CGA. I personally wouldn't bother with
- > anything less than CGA if you really want 80x25 text screens.
- > Machines like the ZEOS use CGA and the screen on that is quite
- > readable, although I think the hp95 screen is better.
-
- The smallest 80-column screen I've heard of is the 141mm-by-106mm display used
- by Olivetti for their Quaderno sub-notebook. As I see it, the largest
- possible palmtop would be roughly the size of a VHS video cassette, or about
- 190 by 105 by 25mm. In other words, it would be 30mm wider than the 95LX, 20mm
- deeper and the thickness would stay the same. There would be room for a
- 141-by-73mm screen, or enough space for 16 lines of 80 columns of text. If you
- make it any larger than this [or the old Atari Portfolio], it will cease to be
- a palmtop and become an undersized, underpowered notebook.
- ---
- BTW, the Quaderno has a built-in microphone so that you can record speech and
- store it on the built-in hard disk. Great for note taking. Another nifty idea
- would be to have a touch-sensitive screen, you could write short memos using a
- stylus and do similar things. Would be great for running MS Windows as well.
-
- MARCU$
-
- >
- > Jim
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