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- Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
- Subject: Re: Cheap, programmable, editor, terminal -- which ?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.154103.24123@comp.bioz.unibas.ch>
- From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:41:03 GMT
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- In article <2417@sousa.tay.dec.com>, secrist@msdsws.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.) writes:
- |>
- |> What alternatives do I have today if I want a palmtop that is:
- |>
-
- I had the same problem and purchased a ZEOS, which is reasonably priced
- (about DM 1000 in Germany, 900 SFR in Switzerland ) in Europe, and now
- runs on an (external) Robotics modem with 9600 baud (how can I get faster than
- this - I could support 14400 on my UNIX Cluster if I only wanted to ?)
- I also evaluated competitor models but found them unsuitable because of
- either too small keyboards or the need to have software loaded to it
- (in particular, I need a VT100 and text processing program). So even
- if you get a cheap palmtop you need to throw in cards and purchase
- licenses for the software, which adds up considerably if you do it right.
- Earlier, I took a Powerbook with me on travel but this is too heavy and
- cannot be easily used on the plane/train without having one more
- piece of luggage. Further, it is much heavier in price so that I wouldn't
- afford it privately.
-
- |> 1) cheap (less than $1K, preferably less than $500)
-
- allright, get a VT220 from the garbage - I don't think that you'll make
- it lower than $700 (that is maybe the ZEOS price in the US ) , including
- the serial cable.
-
- |> 2) programmable (runs an o/s binaries or has programming lang built-in)
-
- DOS comes with QUICKBasic :-) what do you want more ? :-)
- I tried to see what a reasonable development environment is and gave up on
- this. No way to get it onto a palmtop without getting poor on buying cards
- for memory. Also, don't forget that palmtops have usually only XT performance
- and compatibility (if any), so compiling might be tedious also. If you
- want to run binaries, you MUST purchase cards, otherwise the 300 K free
- will be exceeded easily; I couldn't even self-extract PKUNZIP without filling
- the disk. The DOS is a bit sluggish because it doesn't support ALL Dos
- 5.0 commands.
-
- |> 3) has a built-in editor for simple text processing (notes, not fancy stuff)
-
- MS Works is fine for that. Can print acceptable documents via parallel port
- on HP printers which I verified. Others mentioned by the drivers, but I didn't
- test them with the ZEOS.
-
- |> 4) can be a terminal (tty, optimally ansi/vt100 sans keypad)
-
- MS Works is allright for that also. I just couldn't get binary XMODEM work
- so the file transfer is TEXT only.
-
- |> I don't want spreadsheets, hard or floppy drives, backlit displays,
- |> time management, tetris, etc.
-
- You will also get spreadsheets and graphics in the ZEOS which I liked somehow,
- as I do a lot of WINGZ on the workstation it is nice to have a bit of
- homework exported and play around for evaluating matters.
-
-
- I am quite pleased with the ZEOS, but I'd like to plug in a ethernet
- adapter on the parallel port and run PATHWORKS on it. Anyone tried
- this before?
-
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