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- From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
- Subject: Re: Novell packet encapsulation on Ethernet - which to choose?
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:05:33 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan24.005125.5007@nobeltech.se> ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan20.135142.18737@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
- >>Novell recognises 4 Ethernet frame types (e.g., see "3.11 System
- >>Administration", p.125): _802.3, _II, _Snap and _802.2.
- >
- >Oh......no..
- >And I was being confused enough with three types. So, does anybody know
- >what SSAP and DSAP 802.2 uses ? Am I to understand that there are THREE
- >types on Token-Ring also, and not two as I thought ?
-
- 802.2 uses the SSAP and DSAP appropriate for whichever protocol(s) are
- bound to it! At this level, all the software is doing is demultiplexing
- to the appropriate higher-level protocol stack. If an 802.3 frame is
- not using the "global DSAP" (strictly, if the frame does not have X'FF'
- where the SAPs should be, since Novell do not think of it as a global
- DSAP at all) it is an 802.2 frame; if it does not have the SNAP LSAPs,
- it's a non-SNAP 802.2 frame. Simple.
-
- If you're wondering what LSAP IPX uses when bound to 802.2, it uses X'E0'.
- The 1-byte LSAPs are _much_ harder to get than the 2-byte EtherTypes as
- used in Ethernet II and SNAP; this is why some protocols (e.g. AppleTalk)
- require SNAP when using 802.2. The fact that IPX has its own LSAP is
- jolly impressive (assuming it's IEEE-assigned).
-
- And all token ring frames are 802.2; you can choose whether to use SNAP
- or not, making two types of frame.
-
- Talking of frames, does anyone know if Ciscos can now do IPX routing on
- 802.2 frames? The manual I sneaked a look at only mentioned the older
- two types, but I suppose there might be new software...
- --
- Alasdair.Grant@ucs.cam.ac.uk Systems Group, Cambridge University, UK
-