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- From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
- Subject: Re: Taking exams?
- Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
- Date: 23 Jan 93 14:43:59 CST
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.144400.5798@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
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- In article <hdev.727811494@dutiag> hdev@dutiag.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught) writes:
- >
- >Actually over here (and many other countries as well) we only have trial by
- >judge, not by jury. A jury is more likely to disbelieve the cheaters if they
- >say they didn't cheat regardless if they did or did not cheat. So the jury is
- >unlawfully biased against the cheaters. In a trial by judge the judge is
- >impartial (well in theory). He has no choice but to presume that the cheaters
- >are innocent (although he knows they are guilty as hell).
-
- Assuming a standard professor/student relationship, a professor has
- absolutely no motive to falsely accuse a student of cheating. Students have
- obvious motives _to_ cheat. (If if there is a screwy professor/student
- relationship, such as a male professor being dumped by a female student he
- was dating, then this should come up in court.) Since people are innocent
- until proven guilty in most civilized parts of the world, I guess I'd have
- to agree that an impartial judge should find the accused student innocent.
-
- Jurors in this country are legally supposed to be impartial, and either the
- defendent or the plaintiff (or their attorneys, etc.) can kick out jurors
- that they feel aren't. Given the nation-wide oh-so-biased news we get on
- TV every night, getting truly impartial jurors is darn difficult.
-
- I still think professor's should have the right to force students to re-take an
- exam on the same material. (After all, if you did so well once, you can
- pull it off again, right? And this time you might even study...) Too bad
- it's illegal in your country. I wonder if it is here...?
-
- ---Joel Kolstad
-