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- From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
- Subject: Re: Taking exams?
- Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
- Date: 23 Jan 93 01:43:17 CST
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.014317.11449@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
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- In article <hdev.727700672@dutiai> hdev@dutiai.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught) writes:
- >
- >In Europe *that* works: no guns allowed.
-
- I'm tempted to think that even if guns were allowed, Europe's crime rate
- wouldn't go up much: I think a lot of Europeans have their heads screwed on
- significantly straighter that a lot of people here in the U.S. (Of course,
- this doesn't apply do anybody reading THIS message... :-) )
-
- It probably was a poor analogy.
-
- > But to the banning of HPs: what's the
- >alternative? It is an extremely easy way to cheat.
-
- Tearing apart a HP-48, un-hobbling the receiver, and putting it back
- together is easy? I think not. Two way communication with a cheating
- friend is better than just having "cheat notes" I guess though.
-
- >But if a large
- >minority would own one, we're in trouble.
-
- How about if we suggest that HP encapsulates (in epoxy) the IR receiving
- circuitry? And (although I don't like the idea that much), have them
- superglue the cases shut. Hmm?
-
- >Do you know that if those students would sue you, they have an excellent case?
-
- Yes, this sucks.
-
- >I guess in the States you only have one proctor during an exam.
-
- Yes, often just the professor sits up at the front of the room doing some
- work or reading or whatever and looks up from time to time. I've even had
- professors who've left the room for several minutes to go get a drink or
- something.
-
- >The word of
- >one man against another doesn't work in court. Even worse, since you accuse
- >him of cheating, you'll have to supply the evidence. If not, well, how much
- >money can you get from a slander law suit?
-
- Hmm. Perhaps the professor should say nothing, but be allowed to require
- the student to take another exam, covering the same material. This puts an
- undue hardship on the professor, but at least gets rid of the legal
- problems.
-
- >[stuff about students in Netherlands suing teachers]
-
- Yikes. Some people take their civil liberties a little too seriously. Or
- perhaps some jurors have their heads screwed on backwards...
-
- I hope that 50 years from now there aren't video cameras watching
- classrooms 24 hours a day, providing evidence for the professor when
- he/she's inevitably accused of slandering a cheating student. :-( (You
- probably know that may police cards here in the U.S. already have dash
- mounted video cameras, right? Supposedly to protect the cops and the
- Rodney Kings of the nation...)
-
- ---Joel Kolstad
-