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Path: sparky!uunet!olivea!charnel!rat!koko.csustan.edu!nic.csu.net!nic.csu.net!nntp From: gibsonst@sonoma.edu (Stephen Gibson) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: re: Win for Workgroups and WinQV/Net Keywords: windows network WinQVT/Net Message-ID: <1993Jan21.184609.3900@nic.csu.net> Date: 22 Jan 93 02:46:05 GMT References: <jkramer.727636944@worms.cmsbio.nwu.edu> <C17vqx.2ro@news.iastate.edu> Reply-To: gibsonst@sonoma.edu Organization: Sonoma State University, Rohnert Park, CA Lines: 138 Nntp-Posting-Host: ethernet.sonoma.edu In article <C17vqx.2ro@news.iastate.edu> rjhoffma@iastate.edu (R. J. Hoffmann) writes: >-- > >In article <jkramer.727636944@worms.cmsbio.nwu.edu> jkramer@.cmsbio.nwu.edu (James M. Kramer) writes: >>I would like to run both Windows for Workgroups and WinQVT/Net together. >Either one runs fine alone, but WFW doesn't work when the Ethenet 3c503 >driver and pktint are loaded. Can anyone tell if and how to get them to >coexist. Thanks. > >I can't promise this is the answer, since I haven't run Windows for Workgroups, but have you tried pktmux, the packet multiplexer? If Windows has control of your ethernet driver, I doubt WinQVT/Net could get access (or vice versa). > >Dick Hoffmann > It just so happens that I saved a posting describing one user's W4WG/Packet Driver/WinQVT solution. Here it is in ALL of it's glory (with config info as well). Hope this helps! -------------------------------- CUT HERE --------------------------------- Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.1B5 17/9/92 VAX/VMS V5.5-2; site nic.csu.net Path: nic.csu.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!uunet!pipex!warwick!mrccrc!mniven Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: Windows for Workgroups/Novell Netware/Packet Drivers Message-ID: <1992Dec22.130141.22540@crc.ac.uk> From: mniven@crc.ac.uk (Dr. M.J. Niven) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:01:41 GMT Sender: news@crc.ac.uk Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.setup Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre Keywords: Windows Novell Netware Packet Protocols Nntp-Posting-Host: tin Lines: 99 Xref: filly comp.os.ms-windows.setup:2448 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:5961 Thanks to all who helped with my query about Windows for Workgroups and packet drivers. As promised, a summary of the info I received. W4W installs its own driver for the network board, called an NDIS driver. This seems to be conceptually similar to a packet driver in that it allows multiple protocols to plug into it, governed by a separate driver/program called the protocol manager. To use packet driver programs you have to get the "packet driver shim" which plugs-in in such a way to provide the packet interface. The current version is dis_pkt9.dos, which is available from a large number of ftp sites (do an archie search to find your nearest) as dis_pkt9.zip, which also includes documentation and source. This then needs to be loaded after the NDIS driver in config.sys, and the protocol.ini file needs to be edited to include it. I've included samples of the modified files below. Once it is all loaded you have to start it all up by running "net start" before anything else will see the drivers - I had a fair amount of frustration before I realised this. I would add that we have been somewhat disappointed by the level of support for Novell Netware. This was obviously a commercial decision by Microsoft to provide better support for their own LAN Manager, but in view of the number of Netware users somewhat more should have been done for them. Good luck! Mark Niven _____________________________________________________________________ The London Hospital Medical College | Internet M.Niven@lhmc.ac.uk Whitechapel | Janet M.Niven@uk.ac.lhmc London | E1 1BB | Voice + 44 71 377 7111 England | Fax + 44 71 377 7636 _____________________________________|_______________________________ Sample Configuration files ========================== CONFIG.SYS ========== rem It's useful to load high if you can rem as it uses quite a lot of RAM devicehigh=C:\Windows\protman.dos /i:C:\Windows rem directory for protocol.ini file -^^^^^^^^^^ devicehigh=c:\Windows\dis_pkt9.dos devicehigh=C:\Windows\workgrp.sys devicehigh=C:\Windows\ne2000.dos devicehigh=C:\W4WKGP\msipx.sys AUTOEXEC.BAT ============ C:\Windows\net start rem next two lines provide support for packet driver progs rem under Windows lh winpkt 0x61 0x62 lh pktint lh C:\Windows\msipx c:\Windows\netx PROTOCOL.INI ============ [network.setup] version=0x3100 netcard=ms$ne2clone,1,MS$NE2CLONE transport=ms$netbeui,MS$NETBEUI transport=ms$ipx,MS$IPX lana0=ms$ne2clone,1,ms$ipx lana1=ms$ne2clone,1,ms$netbeui [protman] DriverName=PROTMAN$ PRIORITY=MS$NETBEUI [MS$NE2CLONE] DriverName=MS2000$ IOBASE=0x300 INTERRUPT=10 [pktdrv] ;|| drivername=dis_pkt9$ ;|| add these lines to tell bindings=MS$ne2clone ;|| the protocol manager about intvec=0x62 ;|| the packet driver shim [MS$NETBEUI] DriverName=netbeui$ SESSIONS=10 NCBS=32 BINDINGS=MS$NE2CLONE LANABASE=1 [MS$IPX] DriverName=IPX$ MediaType=Ethernet_II (DIX) BINDINGS=MS$NE2CLONE -------------------------------- CUT HERE --------------------------------- Stephen Gibson System Support Specialist Sonoma State Universtiy eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu