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- From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
- Subject: Re: Searle on animal consciousness
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.155831.12782@mp.cs.niu.edu>
- Organization: Northern Illinois University
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:58:31 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan24.213358.10067@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
- >In article <1juactINN4ph@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan24.024230.5977@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
- >>>Searle says that "it seems to me a well-attested empirical fact
- >>>that dogs are conscious." [The Rediscovery of the Mind, p.74.]
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- I'm glad to see that there is strong support for this view. It seems
- obvious to me.
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- > I agree: dogs, perhaps even spiders, feel pain. But the situation
- >is not so clear to me with other aspects of mental life. Do they have
- >desires? Do they have beliefs? Do they recall the distant past?
- >Do they have streams of consciousness?
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- Some of these are questions of definition. In particular, that might be
- the case for desires, and perhaps for streams of consciousness.
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- Do they have beliefs? Not in the sense in which we use the term. We use
- it in such a way that some form of language is a requirement.
-
- Do they recall the distant past? I don't believe so. They certainly
- retain memories, in the sense that tricks they learned earlier may stay
- learned, and they may recognize old friends. But this is quite different
- from being able to recall the past. I made a point last summer of
- arguing that memory (including human memory) is not a store/recall
- device. What we perceive as memory recall is really an inference
- procedure, and it requires language to perform any but the simplest of
- such inferences.
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