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- From: orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke)
- Subject: Re: Searle on animal consciousness
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.115504.13869@sophia.smith.edu>
- Organization: Smith College, Northampton, MA, US
- References: <1993Jan24.213358.10067@sophia.smith.edu> <1jvevlINN4va@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jan25.023842.11756@sophia.smith.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:55:04 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.023842.11756@sophia.smith.edu> I wrote:
- > This raises an interesting question: suppose we established
- >(somehow) that a particular species experienced pain, but otherwise had no
- >mental life [...]. Would it be accurate to call these creatures conscious?
-
- Let me add to this thought. The night after I last sprained my
- ankle, I had great difficulty sleeping from the pain, but I managed a
- few hours of fitful sleep. It seems clear to me the pain continued while
- I was asleep. Searle argues for this convincingly in "The Rediscovery of
- the Mind." My body responded to the pain even while asleep, e.g., by not
- attempting to roll over. So one can have unconscious pains.
- It seems therefore that establishing that an animal experiences
- pain does not establish that it is conscious.
-