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- From: jek@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (James E. Kittock)
- Subject: Re: So, genetic algorithms have nothing to do with genetics?
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:29:27 GMT
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- In article <1jlmb2INNjp4@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> choup@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Ping Chou) writes:
-
- > Or the development of genetic algorithms has
- >completed?
-
- I doubt anyone would argue this. For example, genetic
- programming just came on the scene within the past
- couple of years and it has the potential to churn up
- the field significantly.
-
- > Don't you think you may be able to discover new algorithms from
- >studying genetics?
-
- Of course. But geneticists calling us stupid and
- telling us to go back to school doesn't help, does it?
- In particular, I happen to be intrigued by the fact
- that genes not only produce physical structure and
- regulate cellular events, they effectively regulate
- their own expression. This sort of feedback should be
- very interesting to investigate!
-
- > Do you really believe the complete genome of HIV is just a 4-state
- >bits encoded string?
-
- Well, in a sense, sure. Why? What do you know that we
- don't? How about educate us rather than chastise us!
-
- > Then please, give youself a chance, take a look at any modern
- >genetics text book, and be a cross-discipline expert.
-
- It is pretty arrogant to assume that people who work
- with genetic algorithms have no knowledge of genetics!
- Furthermore, different people have different interests,
- and you can't be sure what each person ought to study.
- For example, there is relatively little need for
- someone interested in modelling the evolution of
- populations to have a thorough understanding of, say,
- molecular biology even though it relates to genetics.
-
- > BTW, I would appreciate any reasonable arguments because I'm trying
- >to learn ai-genetic from the genetics side.
-
- Well, I suggest you go back to school and take a course
- in each of the following: programming, data structures,
- algorithms, parallel algorithms, automata theory, etc.
- etc. etc. It's a joke, get it?
-
- For those non-biologists interested in getting some
- background on cell physiology and/or genetics, I highly
- recommend "The Living Cell", by Christian de Duve from
- the Scientific American library series. It is getting
- a bit "old" (1985?) but I assume the basic top-level
- picture it presents is still mostly "correct". More
- importantly it is scientific without being pedantic and
- boring and yet it is not too "popular".
-
- And I would have to second Ping's suggestion to study
- cross-disciplinarily. It can be surprisingly useful.
-
-
- --james, "Don't know much about biology 'cept what I
- need to"
-
- --
- james kittock :: stanford cs grad student :: duke '92 :: go blue devils!!
- "Adaptation is a recursive process in living systems." -- Alex. M. Andrew
-