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- From: jmorry@kean.ucs.mun.ca
- Subject: Labrador Deal (was RE:SNAGG)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.130906.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>
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- Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:39:06 GMT
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- >From: larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE)
- >Subject:Labrador deal (was RE:SNAGG)
- >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:09:45 GMT
- >Message-ID:<1993Jan22.140945.6000@julian.uwo.ca>
-
- [Introduction and most of Article Deleted]
-
- >refer the matter to the International Court at the Hague. In that
- >event it could be a whole new ball game, for Quebec has always
- >believed it could reverse the 1927 decision.
- >
- >[ and I hope they do - John ]
-
- Why? Newfoundland is not already poor enough?
-
- >
-
- > "Why would the Canadian government do such a thing? Apparently
- >Mackenzie King was extremely worrited over the political
- >consequences should Newfoundland lose and Quebec thereby gain such
- >a huge slice of land. The proglem was that o discovering a way to
- >compensate Ontario with an equal amount of terrtitory. As this
- >proved an insoluble puzzle, rumour had it that Anglophone ministers
- >in the cabinet HAD THREATENED A PALACE REVOLT if the province of
- >Quebec were to expand to that extent. Thus, the 1927 decision was
- >an immense relief in that IT RESTRICTED QUEBEC AND FAVOURED THE
- >STATUS QUO IN CANADA."
-
- There's no proof of the "secret agent" planted within the Hudson's Bay
- Company, although it sounds quite likely. By the way, John Greene was
- leader of the provincial NDP back in the late 1970's.
- I have no reason to doubt his sincerity, but he still doesn't have the
- clinching proof on this theory. By the way, did you know that
- Newfoundland tried to sell Labrador to Quebec for $50 million back in
- the early 1930's in an attempt to meet its public debt (largely
- incurred because Newfoundland was the only country foolish enough to
- make good on its debts from World War I)? The Quebec premier
- Taschereau decided that the price was too steep. Had Quebec made this
- deal, it is likely that Newfoundland never would have had to abandon
- self-government for a British-appointed commission, and Newfoundland
- might never have joined Canada.
-
- >
- >[ end of quote ]
- >
- > Your friend and mine, Clyde Kirby Wells, leader of less than
- >3% of the Canadian population, "stood up to Quebec" and deserves
- >credit for the torpedoing of the Meech Lake accord. Such anti-
- >Quebec sentiment also came from the mouth of one of his cabinet
- >ministers who proclamined "They might have us over a barrel on the
- >Churchill Falls but we got them by the balls on Meech Lake".
-
- Yeah, I remember that quote. It was Hubert Kitchen, former Finance
- minister, but he actually said "...but we've got them by the short
- hairs on Meech Lake". He embarrassed a lot of us in Newfoundland with
- that remark. He was reprimanded by the cabinet for that - he
- also said that the tax on books was fair because "the poor don't read
- or buy many books anyway". Don't base your argument on the quotes of
- one loose cannon on the deck.
-
- >
- > Newfoundland, a province that only became "Canadian" less 45
- >years ago, was telling Quebec, one of the founding provinces of
- >Canada, what kind of country it would like imposed on it. Makes you
- >miss Peckford. At least he was a regionalist who understood that
- >Newfoundland should exercise powers at the provincial level, not
- >Ottawa. And while he wasn't a separatist, his Canada would have
- >been more decentralized then the one that Pierre Eliott Trudeau
- >imposed on it.
-
- Aha, now it all comes out. So we're not equals within Canada, are we?
- How DARE we try to effect fairness for ourselves and others in Canada
- - we're too small and poor to matter within Canada, is that what
- you're really saying?
-
- >
- > This region has had more than its say in Canada. For far too
- >long they have had unlimited access to the wealth of Central Canada
- >by way of federal provincial grants, and outside the (once)
- >bountiful fisheries, there was UI for a good part of the year and
- >whatever money was poured into the latest multi-billion dollar
- >port-barrel project from Trudeau and Mulroney.
-
- Yeah right. And what about all the good strong backs we've provided to
- Ontario to work your factories and develop your province?
- There are close to 1 million expatriate Newfoundlanders scattered
- throughout Canada and the U.S. Do you think that they haven't had
- regrets about having to leave? Does that sound like we're all a bunch
- of leeches on Canada?
- Your attitude shows an ignorance of Newfoundland held by many
- that sickens and appalls me. There might be 22% unemployment here, but
- those of us who are lucky enough to have jobs here pay income tax, GST
- and all the other hidden taxes just like anywhere else in Canada - in
- fact, we don't even have the luxury of cross-border shopping! And most
- of those that are unemployed would, I'm sure, trade UI for a job. There
- are just as many UI and welfare cheats anywhere else in Canada.
- So get down off your high horse and stop bleating about how Newfoundland is a
- drain on Canada - what natural resources we have here are developed
- elsewhere in Canada - Labrador iron ore, hydroelectric power, pulp and
- paper, etc., etc. I don't see you complaining about how all of that
- keeps Iron Ore Company of Canada, DOSCO, Hydro Quebec, Abitibi Price and
- countless other companies and their stockholders going.
-
- Hibernia will be to
- >Newfoundland what the Tar Sands were to Alberta. Oil so expensive
- >to produce that it would be better to leave it in the ground. And
- >despite all of this - the provice is still very much poor. Makes
- >you wonder if Confederation was worth it for them.
-
- Hope that YOU are wrong!
-
- >
- >
- > I wish them luck, but the realist in me tells me that this
- >project, like all the rest, will fail and Newfoundland will remain
- >poor and desolate. When Quebec goes (and it will, in time)
- >Newfoundland and the rest of Atlantic Canada will be up the creek.
- >Atlantic Canada's Bangladesh to Quebec's Pakistan and Ontario's
- >India. Not very promising, but inevitable, as money runs out of the
- >federal coffers and no one wants to pay any more.
-
- You're a real optimist, aren't you?
-
-
- Jamie Morry
- Memorial University of Newfoundland
- St. John's Newfoundland
-
- Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not those of the university.
-