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- From: larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE)
- Subject: Labrador deal (was RE:SNAGG)
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:09:45 GMT
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- Here is the promised information on the Labrador scam that
- King pulled back in 1927. The goodies that I am printing below come
- from a Newfoundland high school teacher and historian, John Greene,
- who published the article in the Sept 23, 1990 issue of Catholic
- New Times. This article was written with information culled from
- the Newfoundland archives.
-
- The treaty of Paris "ceded to Newfoundland an undefined
- region, known as Labrador, formerly considered to be part of
- Quebec. Although Labrador would be returned to its original owner
- in 1774, it was transferred back to Newfoundand again in 1809."
-
- In 1902, Quebec and Newfoundalnd claimed the right to licence
- a timber company at Hamilton inlet. Quebec pursued the matter
- further desiring a solution to the boundary dispute. WWI postponed
- any deliberation on the issue until 1920. I will quote directly
- from the author.
-
- "The decision was rendered in 1927 and represented for
- Newfoundland the biggest real estate theft in modern history.
- Basing their claim on a WIDE interpretation of the word "coast"
- (because Canada admitted their right to the coast), Newfoundland
- argued for ownership of all land drained by the rivers that flowed
- into the Atlantic Ocean. The Privy Council agreed and Newfoundland
- gained 263 871 square km - an area three times the size of the
- island itself. Quebec was so shocked and aggrieved that it refused
- to accept the decision, a position which 63 (+) years of history
- has falled to change.
-
- "Quebec's position has always worried local interests and
- when Newfoundalnd joined Canada in 1949 a clause was inserted into
- the Terms of Union guaranteeing present boundaries - a move
- accepted over the vehement protests of Duplessis and several Quebec
- MP's. In the 1960's, Quebec refuesed to guarantee a right of way
- for Churchill Falls Hydro Electric Power, insistin, instead, on
- purchasing that power at the border. When the rapidly changing
- world economy of the 1970's demonstrated that Quebec had purchased
- the power at bargain basement prices and was reselling it for a hug
- profit, Newfoundalnd attempted to reopen the contract. Quebec's
- refusal left Newfoundlanders with the feeling of having been
- cheated and both the media and politicians didn't hesitate to lint
- that issue with the desire for revenge on the part of Quebec.
-
- "...With a post-Meech reconstruction of Canada under way, the terms
- of the confederation agreement of 1948 can no longer serve as a
- refuge for Newfoundland. Presumably an independent... Quebec could
- refer the matter to the International Court at the Hague. In that
- event it could be a whole new ball game, for Quebec has always
- believed it could reverse the 1927 decision.
-
- [ and I hope they do - John ]
-
- "This confidence is based on the bact that Newfoundland not
- only won its case on a technicality but also that Canada at that
- time was considered to have poorly prepared its position. Ont the
- other hand, the Privy Council commended Newfoundland for the
- thoroughness of its research - an event which led to the enduring
- reputation for P T McGrath, Newfoundland's primary investigator.
-
- "There is evidence though, in the McGrath papers, that other
- factors may have been at work besides Newfoundland genius. It
- appears that THE KING GOVERNMENT SECRETLY CONSPIRED WITH THE
- HUDSON'S BAY COMPANY TO SABOTAGE ITS OWN CASE AND ENSURE A
- NEWFOUNDLAND VICTORY. This was effected by placina a secret agent
- in the Hudson's Bay Company archives in Winnipeg who kept a close
- watch over documentary evidence selected for the Privy Council case
- by the Canadian representatives. Afterwards, the agent secretly
- made all such evidence avaliable to Newfoundland.
-
- "Why would the Canadian government do such a thing? Apparently
- Mackenzie King was extremely worrited over the political
- consequences should Newfoundland lose and Quebec thereby gain such
- a huge slice of land. The proglem was that o discovering a way to
- compensate Ontario with an equal amount of terrtitory. As this
- proved an insoluble puzzle, rumour had it that Anglophone ministers
- in the cabinet HAD THREATENED A PALACE REVOLT if the province of
- Quebec were to expand to that extent. Thus, the 1927 decision was
- an immense relief in that IT RESTRICTED QUEBEC AND FAVOURED THE
- STATUS QUO IN CANADA."
-
- [ end of quote ]
-
- Your friend and mine, Clyde Kirby Wells, leader of less than
- 3% of the Canadian population, "stood up to Quebec" and deserves
- credit for the torpedoing of the Meech Lake accord. Such anti-
- Quebec sentiment also came from the mouth of one of his cabinet
- ministers who proclamined "They might have us over a barrel on the
- Churchill Falls but we got them by the balls on Meech Lake".
-
- Newfoundland, a province that only became "Canadian" less 45
- years ago, was telling Quebec, one of the founding provinces of
- Canada, what kind of country it would like imposed on it. Makes you
- miss Peckford. At least he was a regionalist who understood that
- Newfoundland should exercise powers at the provincial level, not
- Ottawa. And while he wasn't a separatist, his Canada would have
- been more decentralized then the one that Pierre Eliott Trudeau
- imposed on it.
-
- This region has had more than its say in Canada. For far too
- long they have had unlimited access to the wealth of Central Canada
- by way of federal provincial grants, and outside the (once)
- bountiful fisheries, there was UI for a good part of the year and
- whatever money was poured into the latest multi-billion dollar
- port-barrel project from Trudeau and Mulroney. Hibernia will be to
- Newfoundland what the Tar Sands were to Alberta. Oil so expensive
- to produce that it would be better to leave it in the ground. And
- despite all of this - the provice is still very much poor. Makes
- you wonder if Confederation was worth it for them.
-
-
- I wish them luck, but the realist in me tells me that this
- project, like all the rest, will fail and Newfoundland will remain
- poor and desolate. When Quebec goes (and it will, in time)
- Newfoundland and the rest of Atlantic Canada will be up the creek.
- Atlantic Canada's Bangladesh to Quebec's Pakistan and Ontario's
- India. Not very promising, but inevitable, as money runs out of the
- federal coffers and no one wants to pay any more. Here is the promised information on the Labrador scam that
- King pulled back in 1927. The goodies that I am printing below come
- from a Newfoundland high school teacher and historian, John Greene,
- who published the article in the Sept 23, 1990 issue of Catholic
- New Times. This article was written with information culled from
- the Newfoundland archives.
-
- The treaty of Paris "ceded to Newfoundland an undefined
- region, known as Labrador, formerly considered to be part of
- Quebec. Although Labrador would be returned to its original owner
- in 1774, it was transferred back to Newfoundand again in 1809."
-
- In 1902, Quebec and Newfoundalnd claimed the right to licence
- a timber company at Hamilton inlet. Quebec pursued the matter
- further desiring a solution to the boundary dispute. WWI postponed
- any deliberation on the issue until 1920. I will quote directly
- from the author.
-
- "The decision was rendered in 1927 and represented for
- Newfoundland the biggest real estate theft in modern history.
- Basing their claim on a WIDE interpretation of the word "coast"
- (because Canada admitted their right to the coast), Newfoundland
- argued for ownership of all land drained by the rivers that flowed
- into the Atlantic Ocean. The Privy Council agreed and Newfoundland
- gained 263 871 square km - an area three times the size of the
- island itself. Quebec was so shocked and aggrieved that it refused
- to accept the decision, a position which 63 (+) years of history
- has falled to change.
-
- "Quebec's position has always worried local interests and
- when Newfoundalnd joined Canada in 1949 a clause was inserted into
- the Terms of Union guaranteeing present boundaries - a move
- accepted over the vehement protests of Duplessis and several Quebec
- MP's. In the 1960's, Quebec refuesed to guarantee a right of way
- for Churchill Falls Hydro Electric Power, insistin, instead, on
- purchasing that power at the border. When the rapidly changing
- world economy of the 1970's demonstrated that Quebec had purchased
- the power at bargain basement prices and was reselling it for a hug
- profit, Newfoundalnd attempted to reopen the contract. Quebec's
- refusal left Newfoundlanders with the feeling of having been
- cheated and both the media and politicians didn't hesitate to lint
- that issue with the desire for revenge on the part of Quebec.
-
- "...With a post-Meech reconstruction of Canada under way, the terms
- of the confederation agreement of 1948 can no longer serve as a
- refuge for Newfoundland. Presumably an independent... Quebec could
- refer the matter to the International Court at the Hague. In that
- event it could be a whole new ball game, for Quebec has always
- believed it could reverse the 1927 decision.
-
- [ and I hope they do - John ]
-
- "This confidence is based on the bact that Newfoundland not
- only won its case on a technicality but also that Canada at that
- time was considered to have poorly prepared its position. Ont the
- other hand, the Privy Council commended Newfoundland for the
- thoroughness of its research - an event which led to the enduring
- reputation for P T McGrath, Newfoundland's primary investigator.
-
- "There is evidence though, in the McGrath papers, that other
- factors may have been at work besides Newfoundland genius. It
- appears that THE KING GOVERNMENT SECRETLY CONSPIRED WITH THE
- HUDSON'S BAY COMPANY TO SABOTAGE ITS OWN CASE AND ENSURE A
- NEWFOUNDLAND VICTORY. This was effected by placina a secret agent
- in the Hudson's Bay Company archives in Winnipeg who kept a close
- watch over documentary evidence selected for the Privy Council case
- by the Canadian representatives. Afterwards, the agent secretly
- made all such evidence avaliable to Newfoundland.
-
- "Why would the Canadian government do such a thing? Apparently
- Mackenzie King was extremely worrited over the political
- consequences should Newfoundland lose and Quebec thereby gain such
- a huge slice of land. The proglem was that o discovering a way to
- compensate Ontario with an equal amount of terrtitory. As this
- proved an insoluble puzzle, rumour had it that Anglophone ministers
- in the cabinet HAD THREATENED A PALACE REVOLT if the province of
- Quebec were to expand to that extent. Thus, the 1927 decision was
- an immense relief in that IT RESTRICTED QUEBEC AND FAVOURED THE
- STATUS QUO IN CANADA."
-
- [ end of quote ]
-
- Your friend and mine, Clyde Kirby Wells, leader of less than
- 3% of the Canadian population, "stood up to Quebec" and deserves
- credit for the torpedoing of the Meech Lake accord. Such anti-
- Quebec sentiment also came from the mouth of one of his cabinet
- ministers who proclamined "They might have us over a barrel on the
- Churchill Falls but we got them by the balls on Meech Lake".
-
- Newfoundland, a province that only became "Canadian" less 45
- years ago, was telling Quebec, one of the founding provinces of
- Canada, what kind of country it would like imposed on it. Makes you
- miss Peckford. At least he was a regionalist who understood that
- Newfoundland should exercise powers at the provincial level, not
- Ottawa. And while he wasn't a separatist, his Canada would have
- been more decentralized then the one that Pierre Eliott Trudeau
- imposed on it.
-
- This region has had more than its say in Canada. For far too
- long they have had unlimited access to the wealth of Central Canada
- by way of federal provincial grants, and outside the (once)
- bountiful fisheries, there was UI for a good part of the year and
- whatever money was poured into the latest multi-billion dollar
- port-barrel project from Trudeau and Mulroney. Hibernia will be to
- Newfoundland what the Tar Sands were to Alberta. Oil so expensive
- to produce that it would be better to leave it in the ground. And
- despite all of this - the provice is still very much poor. Makes
- you wonder if Confederation was worth it for them.
-
-
- I wish them luck, but the realist in me tells me that this
- project, like all the rest, will fail and Newfoundland will remain
- poor and desolate. When Quebec goes (and it will, in time)
- Newfoundland and the rest of Atlantic Canada will be up the creek.
- Atlantic Canada's Bangladesh to Quebec's Pakistan and Ontario's
- India. Not very promising, but inevitable, as money runs out of the
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