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- From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead)
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- Subject: Re: earthquakes during surgery
- Message-ID: <51918@seismo.CSS.GOV>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 21:17:15 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan21.232601.15723@kestrel.edu>, king@reasoning.com (Dick King) writes:
- > However, i understand there to be devices that can give you perhaps a fifteen
- > seconds warning of an impending 'quake. They work because it takes a while for
- > the shock to travel from the fault to elsewhere, so a device mounted on a fault
- > can send a radio signal that can be picked up. I suspect that fifteen seconds
- > would help a lot if you want to avoid cutting random wiring or plumbing within
- > the patient.
-
- True. This is one of the many conceivable situations where an early warning
- system could be useful. But it would not be cost-effective in isolation -
- basically, an early warning system has to be justified in more general terms,
- then hospitals can simply receive the signal, at negligible cost.
-
- Some other uses of early warning:
- 1) construction sites (everybody out of the ditch on the alarm, etc.)
- 2) nuclear power (drop the rods if expected acceleration is very high)
- 3) electrical distribution - re-route power in anticipation of downed lines
- (There is a scenario for a quake on the San Andreas north of LA, where
- all the mains coming across the fault are severed, and the power pulse
- travelling back north from the breaks takes out most of the western grid.
- A power engineer could say how realistic that might be.)
- 4) Bring emergency generators on-line (hospitals, emergency facilities, etc.)
- 5) Phone company - for example, the Whittier Narrows quake, despite being
- rather small, knocked over 300,000 phones off the hook simultaneously.
- The phone system overloaded, and it took a long time to correct.
- 6) elevators - send them to the ground floor and leave the doors open.
- 7) fire stations - move the trucks and ambulances out of the buildings.
- 8) manufacturing - any delicate equipment could be returned to its locked-down
- state.
- 9) computers - critical systems could be taken down smoothly to avoid loss
- of data and/or inconsistant data
- 10) media - they love to be the first to know.
- 11) general public - curiosity, peace of mind, safety (put down that pan of
- boiling water), whatever.
-
- Anyway, I think early warning is justified, given the many possible existing
- uses. And there are undoubtedly uses that cannot be anticipated. (the only
- disadvantages are 1) possibility of panic and 2) possibility of false alarms).
-
- > Does anyone know what is done about the possibility of an earthquake during
- > surgery, in the real world?
-
- About 0. However, the possibility of surgery during an earthquake is 100%.
- (the difference is due to the fact that at any given time, in any region
- of CA, there are a few OR's active. So there will be surgery during a major
- quake. However, quakes are so infrequent, and surgery so frequent, that the
- chance of a major quake during any particular surgery is almost 0).
-
-
- --
- Richard Stead
- Center for Seismic Studies
- Arlington, VA
- stead@seismo.css.gov
-