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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:16:32 -0800
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- From: Tor Neilands <tbn@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
- Subject: Re: Ethics
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- Stephanie Fishkin writes:
-
- >(has anyone else heard rumors that this whole experiment was fabricated?
- >Now here is a new vein in this ethics discussion: as a grad student, I've
- >been told that some of the "classic" or well-known studies I learned about
- >as an undergrad may not have been as 100% true as I was led to believe. The
- >Zimbardo study was one rumor I've heard about. I've also heard the same about
- >some other fairly current research. So, should we assume these rumors -- told
- >to me by both fellow graduate students as well as professors from other
- >institutions besides my own! -- are false, or if they are true, how do
- >we stop perpetuating the myths? Just a thought. Now back to the original
- >posting).
-
- This is a tough issue. We can get even grayer (sp; ww?) than that: what
- about the "almost true results" that are "massaged" into truth and
- published? We don't know how much of that is going on out there. I've seen
- entirely too much of it in my graduate career, to the point where I'm very
- cynical about what I read in journals, now. I don't blame individual
- researchers as much as I blame the incentive system that has put enormous
- pressure on folks to "publish" or "perish". Sigh...
-
- >
- >Stephanie "the Social Psychologist" Fishkin (who sometimes maliciously
- >fantsizes about what great deception research she could do if only the
- >revew board wasn't so strict!)
-
- No, no, Stephanie! Don't do it! I had the misfortune to have a low
- self-esteem subject break down and cry in one of my dissertation studies
- this semester, and that was one that had been approved! Others who do
- self-related research here have had the same experience. True, that's more
- of an issue of feedback as opposed to deception, but I've also run a few
- subjects in my day who have been unhappy about being deceived--and it's
- something I'll have to live with forever. It's not a fun feeling to think
- about it, so I try not to dwell on it overmuch. At the same time, I don't
- want to ever do that to someone again.
-
- These be just my 2 * 10**-2 cents worth, not gospel, or law, btw. Just food
- for thought, which may be accepted, ignored, or rejected at your leisure
- (do grad students have "leisure?").
-
- cheers,
-
- Tor
-
- Tor Neilands Computation Center
- Systems Analyst University of Texas at Austin
- Statistical Services Group Internet: TBN@Utxvm.cc.utexas.edu
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