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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:12:11 EST
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- From: Todd D Nelson <nelsont1@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
- Subject: Re: Ethics
- In-Reply-To: <9301281529.AB07933@student2.cl.msu.edu>; from "Steven
- Zikopoulos" at Jan 28, 93 10:17 am
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- Steven writes,
- >
- > Well...as part of the future of North American Psychology you have
- > identified a problem with the 'system'. I agree that the p or p
- > system (guess we can't get out of an Industrial Model of efficiency,
- > success, etc.) causes problems. That is, if we care enough about the
- > "quality" of the research we do.
- >
- > When DO we start balming individuals?
-
- BALMING individuals? as in EMbalming? ha,ha.
-
- We have to at some point if you
- > or I want the 'system' to change for the "better" (assuming we know or
- > have some vague sense of what a better system would be like).
- >
- > Any thoughts on what researach SHOULD be for and about? Given that
- > some of us feel that p or p causes problems; what can we do to change
- > it? Are there enough grad students in Pychology who want to actively
- > try and shape the future of North American psychology? (a tad
- > grandiose perhaps but who cares?) Perhaps most
- > of us are content with our "apprenticeships" and the education we
- > receive from it?
-
- I'm feeling a bit apathetic today. I don't feel like changing the world
- right now, how bout tomorrow? (..... Besides, there's a good movie on tv. now)
-
- > > I'll stop babbling now. It was a relief to see a posting that didn't
- > contain athletic skatological discourse.
-
- I'll second that!
-
- >
- > Steven Zikopoulos
- > Carleton University
- >
-
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- Todd Nelson
- Michigan State University
-