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- Subject: Non-Gaian PCT
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- From Greg Williams (930126)
-
- Gary, I'm continuing to keep my margins under control, even though
- Rick obviously cannot. Different reference levels for different
- folks....
-
- Neat recent paper for PCT-cum-evolution freaks: George C. Williams,
- "GAIA, Nature Worship and Biocentric Fallacies," QUARTERLY REVIEW OF
- BIOLOGY 67, December '92, 479-486. Some quotes follow.
-
- 484 - "No matter how many general benefits may arise from the
- activities of organisms, they can never provide a valid parallel
- between the collective effects and an organism's homeostatic controls.
- The analogy confuses mass-action equilibria or input-output balances
- with homeostasis. Homeostasis requires a feedback loop from a sensor
- of the controlled variable to the machinery by which the control is
- achieved.... Homeostasis should be recognized only if special sensory
- and control machinery can be shown. Stability of some condition, even
- if the condition is rapidly restored after disturbance, should not be
- critically attributed to homeostatic machinery.... Old Faithful is not
- an organism because it is not homeostatic. I would say the same about
- Gaia for the same reason.... Adaptation is always asymmetrical;
- organisms adapt to their environments, never vice versa. If the
- environments at the surface of the Earth seem well suited to living
- organisms, it is simply because those are the environments to which
- organisms have adapted."
-
- A few years back, Bill Powers corresponded with Gaia's Lovelock,
- making similar points as Williams does. (Basically, that the
- reference levels for Gaian regulation are IN EACH OF THE ORGANISMS,
- not in the environment or (as Lovelock seemed to suggest) nowhere at
- all.) Perhaps mainstream evolutionists (and Williams is about as
- mainstream as you can get!) wouldn't consider (some) PCT ideas to be
- as "revolutionary" as some PCTers think. Maybe ALL of biology won't
- need to be redone, come the overthrow!
-
- As ever,
-
- Greg
-