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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:25:57 -0800
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- From: Marken@COURIER4.AERO.ORG
- Subject: Nice Guy?
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- [From Rick Marken (930125.1000)]
-
- Bill Powers (930125.0800) --
-
- >Rick Marken said "If (as I suspect) all they want is impressive
- >surface appearances (the Disneyland syndrome?) then we don't need
- >to waste our time ..."
-
- >And you [John Gardner] said
- >>Ouch.
-
- >I say ouch too. Look before you leap, Rick.
-
- See. I'm not really that nice.
-
- My only excuse is that I had no specific person in mind when I
- referred to "they". I also didn't mean to imply that there is anything
- wrong with wanting to create impressive surface appearances; I
- would like to be able to do it myself. I was just trying to point (not
- jab) to the difference in emphasis (that I see) between current
- robotics (as I understand it) and the PCT approach to robotics
- (such as it exists). The current approach to robotics seems to be
- oriented towards building machines that produce certain perceptions
- (surface appearances) FOR THE ROBOTICIST. The PCT approach
- would be oriented toward building robots that produce certain
- perceptions FOR THEMSELVES and, as a side effect, produce
- interesting perceptions for the PCTer. Another way to look at this
- is that the PCT approach would be to find perceptions which, if they
- were controlled by a robot, would tend to produce the
- "impressive surface perceptions" desired by the PCT roboticist.
-
- So I apologize to John Gardner for creating the disturbance that
- caused the "ouch". My comments were not aimed at you (or anyone
- in particular). They were just a clumsy attempt to distinguish the
- goals of PCT from what I might mistakenly believe to be the goals
- of robotics.
-
- Best
-
- Rick
-