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- From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: The socialist/fascist claptrap item #1: the "Social Contract"
- Message-ID: <1k9oujINN2cf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 23:06:59 GMT
- References: <1993Jan27.193338.9550@netcom.com> <C1JBDH.7Ky@cup.hp.com> <1993Jan28.003944.19095@netcom.com>
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- In article <1993Jan28.003944.19095@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
- >In article <C1JBDH.7Ky@cup.hp.com> runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
- > >Phil Ronzone (phil@netcom.com) wrote:
- >
- >I am not allowed to build my own roads.
- >
- >I am not allowed to string my own power lines, nor to take back my property
- >that the State stole and gave to the power companies so they could run
- >power lines across my property.
- >
- >I am not allowed to buy water rights and have it shipped to my home.
-
- And why are you not allowed to do all of the things that you listed?
-
- >
- >But you know, I bet if I bought a helicopter (and avoided the roads), and
- >bought a generator (and avoided the power companies), and collected rainwater
- >(to avoid the water companies) I don't think I could stop paying taxes.
-
- No- you of course need the permission of someone- to fly, and you have to
- get a license to do so. You need something to run your generator on, so
- where will you get the fuel- but of course, from the subsidized gas station.
- And keep in mind that your rainwater could be polluted pretty badly.
-
- And your right- you probably couldn't stop paying taxes.
-
- Of course- will ignore the fact that some by some unknown process- you got
- money to buy everthing, you got permission to get a license, and you were
- somehow trained to fly a helicopter. All of this appearing out of some
- black hole- hmmm! social convention, social agreement, no no it couldn't
- be that.
-
- > >>
- > >And while you make fun of the analogy of Social Contract by
- > >asking for a piece of paper, allow me to ask for a picture of
- > >the gun pointing at you. :-)
- >
- >Oh? Stop paying your income taxes or property taxes. The State WILL come
- >and take YOUR property away, without your consent. If you resist, they
- >will knock you to the ground and place you in jail. If you strongly
- >resistx, they will shoot you.
- >
- >Like that poor kook up in Idahoe -- he used no roads, no electricity,
- >no water. And paid no taxes.
-
- How did he get there in the first place, if he didn't use roads?
-
- >
- >And they shot him dead.
- >
- >
- So who was this poor guy- was this one pointing guns at people.
- Living in a house, where did that come from, and where did the
- land come from, and who sold him all of this stuff anyway?
-
- >
- >Social Contract? Just another name for the concept of "just lie back and
- >enjoy it" during an act of social intercourse rape.
- >
- >
-
- That you joyfully participate in. Without you would be the little girl
- they found locked in a closet- without any edukation, or social contact.
-