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- From: budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.222844.8637@EE.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 22:28:44 GMT
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- In article <1k9l7nINN164@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
-
- >It is all very simple- you, I and everyone else posting against this concept
- >of 'social contract' are unwilling, willing, blindly or whatever, going
- >along with it. Now the snowballing effect, if you, I and everyone else
- >wishes to live here, in these United States, then we have an obligation
- >to make the system reflect what we want it to be. If you, I and everyone
- >else let's this system goes, on its own, without our intervention, then
- >it will turn into what you don't want.
- >
- >You cannot have what you want if you do not work to bring about.
- >
- >One of the most simple ways to bring the whole system to its knees,
- >is right in your own hands- stop paying taxes, if you can convince
- >10,000, 20,000, 1,000,000 people around yourself, and others do the
- >same all across the country. Then government as it is will stop and
- >pay very close attention. But as we see, the majority will sit and play
- >along with the whole game. And will they do anything, some small percentage
- >will, the rest will not.
- >
- >Your choices become somewhat limited then, according to the grand
- >scheme of things. If the majority does nothing to insure that the
- >government does what it is suppose to do and no more, then as a famous
- >quote goes-
- >
- >The people get the government they deserve.
- >
- >Now why any government or the infamous phrase 'social contract'. IMHO
- >most people cannot take care of themselves or things around them, without
- >being told to do so. Now granted I based this on histoical context and
- >partly on what I see occuring today.
-
- Sounds kind of Hamiltonian, to me. Reminds me of a quote from the
- film "Citizen Kane." CF Kane and his wife are discussing over
- breakfast what will happen if he fails to do sometthing. (it's been
- a long time, and I don't quite recall what.) Anyway, his wife
- asks indignantly, "What will the people think?"
- Kane sharply replies: "EXACTLY what I TELL them to think."
-
- >Without many of the laws and regulations that are in place, we would have
- >a society (actually we not have one at all) that is out of control and
- >definitely based upon power leveraging (weapons).
-
-
- What do you think a society is? It is entirely based upon might makes
- right. What are the police?
-
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