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- From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics,ca.politics
- Subject: Context/Style/Spelling - Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:16:20 GMT
- Organization: Santa Cruz
- Lines: 88
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- In article <1993Jan27.072805.241@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
- >In article <1k3ubqINN1ri@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
- > >There is no moral basis for anything if you wish, to play
- > >moral relativity. My position is such that, an individual and
- > >a group weigh what is best for all concerned. What is best
- > >can be very fundamental- best wages to live on, health
- > >coverage, treating all customers with respect, etc.
- > >
- >Well, to be kind about it, I would say only that "Coram Populo" is a typical
- >victim of our "modern" edukational system, and hence, essentially can not
- >reason.
-
- Again you cannot spell - Oh wait I see, it is a sarcasm... but then again.
-
- >
- >It is rare indeed that I actually laugh out loud, but to read that "There is
- >no basis (moral) to give anyone civil or individual rights." immediately
- >followed by a sentence providing just such a basis is, well, hilarious.
- >
-
- Well it is obvious that you cannot read and make sense of what someone
- has written- I am glad that you had a good laugh.
-
- Now read carefully- I stated 'there is no moral basis for anything if you
- wish- to play moral relatively', then I stated "MY POSITION IS SUCH THAT"
-
- And what is the sentence that is giving you this problem? I do not see
- any thing where I stated one thing and said another.
-
- >However, these postings ARE a serious problem, and, IMO, likely THE problem
- >with the USA today.
-
- Yes- your posting are a serious problem, in many ways. 1) they lack continuity
- and context 2) spelling is not too great (I will assume keyboard fumbling)
- 3) postings tend to twist and turn and attempt to build (create) relationships
- that are not completely valid.
-
- >
- >Loosely called ACM, or anti-conceptual mentality, the ACM person is
- >incapable of treating the world as a unified whole. Instead, his/her
- >"rational process" consists of slogans, images, sound and video bites,
- >and a whole horde of imagery, devoid of any connetional rational underpinning.
-
- This appears to be you - let me support my observation. You constantly
- resort to naming calling (slogans), use acronyms (sound/video bites), us
- old world thinking to support new world concepts (NAZI, commumist, socialist).
-
- Maybe you should stay away from the SJMN and WSJ for awhile. They seem to
- have you confused about how to process information.
-
- >
- >I see this over and over on the net -- a slogan here, name calling there,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >and an inability (or, perversely, a refusal) to treat the concepts
- >"presented" in an ACM post *as* a concept.
- >
-
- Whoa!!! I had to mark out the above phrase- and to use an old slogan,
- "this is the pot calling the kettle black"... You are the master of
- name calling.
-
- And as I have pointed out, many postings lack contextual information and
- therefore have no particular direction presented. Always keep in the mind
- that what you type has no connotation added from facial expressions, or
- voice usage.
-
- [deleted disconnected thought train]
-
- >
- >I used to think these people were perverse -- now I believe that they are
- >sincere (mostly) and simply can not deal with connected concepts.
-
- Well then that is your mental failure, or inability to understand much
- of what other people present- becuase in general, if you do not agree
- with them, then it means you can block it out or degrade it.
-
- >
- >In any case, the above example is classic. It would be nice to debate with
- >"Coram Populo", but, damn it, he can't think his way out of a paper bag.
-
- >Nice enthusiam, but, gee whiz, his posts are an embarrasment.
-
- Are they? Well I would stand way back and take a look at what you have
- posted in the past, and just take a moment to think about how embrassing
- it might be for you. I have read responses from other people to your
- posting- and I am afraid that they are not very positive in general, and
- alot of them, have to to style, not content.
-
-