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- From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:14:36 GMT
- Organization: Santa Cruz
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- In article <1k4ueaINNooa@morrow.stanford.edu> XA.U20@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis) writes:
- >In article <1k3ubqINN1ri@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
- >stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
- >>There is no moral basis for anything if you wish, to play moral relativity.
- >>My position is such that, an individual and a group weigh what is best
- >>for all concerned. What is best can be very fundamental- best wages to
- >>live on, health coverage, treating all customers with respect, etc.
- >
- >But what allows you to compell me to be a member of your "group".
-
- Number one, you live and function ( I assume ) within the social and
- political structure of the US. That for one, makes it someone compelling
- to become and belong to the social/political contracts that we based the
- operation of our society on. You of course, are quite free to make change
- via democratic processes.
-
- >If I voluntarily join an association which requires that I abide by
- >the majority rule of the membership and that groups passes some rule
- >to which I object I can at any time relinquish my membership and
- >stop receiving member benefits. If that organization happens to be
-
- That is quite true. But in the larger sense of the organisation, ie.
- government etc. you are bound somewhat more tightly. And within this
- organisation, there are processes in place that protect minorities from
- the tyranny of majorities.
-
- >But you can not scratch my back and then demand that I scratch yours
- >unless I agreed to do so before you started scratching. If you as
- >an individual have no right to compel me to scratch your back
- >without my consent you can not cede this non-existent right to a
- >government which you elect to represent you.
- >
-
-
- I am at somewhat of a loss to what it is your are trying to convey. In
- no way do I propose that you must do something without getting benefit
- or giving up some purported right. But you have to agree that we always
- compromise in some form. We agree to give up certain things for the
- good of whole.
-