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- From: XA.U20@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
- Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:10:02 -0800
- Organization: Stanford University
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- In article <1k3ubqINN1ri@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
- stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
- >There is no moral basis for anything if you wish, to play moral relativity.
- >My position is such that, an individual and a group weigh what is best
- >for all concerned. What is best can be very fundamental- best wages to
- >live on, health coverage, treating all customers with respect, etc.
-
- But what allows you to compell me to be a member of your "group".
- If I voluntarily join an association which requires that I abide by
- the majority rule of the membership and that groups passes some rule
- to which I object I can at any time relinquish my membership and
- stop receiving member benefits. If that organization happens to be
- a community association they can not force me to continue complying
- just because I live in the area represented by that community. I
- that group howerver calls itseld a "city council" it can so compell
- me. Why should it have the ability to do something the voluntary
- organization could not just becaue it has chosen to call itseld a
- "government"?
-
- >You may not agree with the above statements, since you play the role of
- >moral absolutist when it comes to individual rights, and there extrapolation
- >to private property. There is no basis (moral) to give anyone civil
- >or individual rights. We have developed these doctrines, becuase they give
- >all of us fair overall treatment. You scratch my back and I will scratch
- >yours.
-
- But you can not scratch my back and then demand that I scratch yours
- unless I agreed to do so before you started scratching. If you as
- an individual have no right to compel me to scratch your back
- without my consent you can not cede this non-existent right to a
- government which you elect to represent you.
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