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- From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
- Subject: Re: Rap music
- Message-ID: <ck.728092165@iconix.oz.au>
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- Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
- References: <1993Jan25.041320.1303@freenet.carleton.ca>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:49:25 GMT
- Lines: 68
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- In <1993Jan25.041320.1303@freenet.carleton.ca> aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock) writes:
-
-
- >Oh oh. Misunderstood again. Please, no one is suggesting
- >banning anything. I am the last person to suggest censorship
- >and such like. I just thought that it would be useful if
- >people stopped to think about what they are listening to.
- >I know that a lot of people wholeheartedly accept the
- >content of rap music as somehow being an "education".
- >Kids who listen to the more violent crap should be aware
- >that there is nothing particularilly glamorous about
- >violence. If you saw a ghetto in L.A. and then
- >listened to kids talk like they somehow identify with
- >this sort of thing you would understand. I'm talking
- >about kids from neighbourhoods and cities not plagued
- >by poverty and violence. What do they really get
- >from NWA talking about killing police? They seem to
- >enjoy the idea. It is a fact that rap music has
- >been linked to the dissemination of gang values throughout
- >society. I mean, listen to the content!
-
- I guess you're making a valid point here. I believe it's
- counterproductive to put out a song about killing police,
- but I'm sure that in the context of gang wars, neighborhood
- politics and some crappy cops, someone out there was motivated
- to write such a song. The problem is that some of these songs
- (and I can't quote an example because I don't specifically listen
- to that stuff) are taken out of the context that they were written
- in and used to take the sting out of rap music.
-
- >I guess it
- >is really up to the listener to exercise good
- >judgement, but I remind you, good judgement is not
- >something adolescents are known for.
-
- That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. I think for
- songs such as the ones about killing police, one should take
- a step back from listening to it literally and seeing the
- motivation required to write such a song. Ok, it may be
- as lame as for money, but there is usually a reason. (that's
- what I believe anyway..)
-
- Some of the rap stuff I've heard is unbelievable (ie great).
- Issues in the states such as the emergency services (call 911)
- got a real shakeup (apparently) due to the publicity which rap
- caused. And "Television" by DHoH is fantastic.
-
- >I just want people to think about music and listen to
- >the message. Some music doesn't have a message. Fine.
- >Is there anything in that message that you agree with
- >and why or why not?
-
- Take a step back and work out why the song was written.
-
- >This might seem like a big task
- >but really its not that big of a deal. Try it with
- >Motorhead sometime...
-
- Not if I can help it.
-
- >--
- >Iain Pidcock - Carleton University Student, Ottawa Canada
-
- >For the future we look to the stars, they look back and laugh
- >"What me Worry?"- Alfred E. Newman
-
- Shckwish! (Chris Karadaglis)
-
-