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- From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
- Subject: Re: Anyways
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.162826.1103@news.columbia.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:28:26 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan20.004246.19552@Cadence.COM> vince@gda.cadence.com (Vince Gibboni) writes:
- >
- > For years I've (secretly) interpreted the use of the word "anyways"
- > by anyone over the age of about five as a sure sign that they were
- > either the victim of severe head injury or - to be kind - just not all
- > that bright. (I would have put it in same the class as, say, "p'sghetti")
-
- I too rank "anyways" with "p'sghetti" and "ek cetera" and "nookyuhlur"
- reactors and and "intregal" calculus and the liberry of congress and
- of course, "laxadasical."
-
- > Recently, however, I seem to hear this word being used quite a bit by
- > people whose brains' seem to be otherwise damage-free (even by those who
- > generally take some care to use language correctly).
-
- Well, it depends on how you define "using the language correctly." To a
- linguist, someone who by profession objectifies language, the word
- "anyways" is perfectly correct. To those who view language a little more
- subjectively, I have little difficulty calling "anyways" and "nookyuhlur"
- and "laxadasical" downright incorrect.
-
- > I looked up
- > "anyways" in Merriams-Webster's, and was surprised to find it labelled
- > "chiefly dial". Unfortunately, Merriams-Webster's never actually defines
- > exactly what they mean by "chiefly dial", but they do tell us that "dial"
- > is short for dialect, which is very nearly helpful. So presumably (and
- > I am guessing here) this means that there is some dialect in some
- > as-yet-undisclosed location somewhere on the planet in which "anyways" is
- > considered acceptable, but that it consider unacceptable everywhere
- > else.
-
- Anyways and the others I listed all appear in many dialects, but generally
- they are frowned upon by a lot of educated speakers.
-
- > This leads me (finally) to two questions: 1) does anyone what this
- > dialect is ? and 2) why have there been so many (presumably) non-dialected
- > people using the word lately ? (or is it just me ?)
-
- Well, everyone speaks a dialect, remember. It's just that some
- dialects are closer to what most educated individuals would consider
- "good English" (i.e. what is taught in schools, used by the press,
- etc). Between two people whose dialect includes "anyways," there
- isn't a problem. Between two people, one of whose dialects does not
- include the word, it may be a different story.
-
-
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