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- From: tuff@ellis.uchicago.edu (Geoff Tuffli)
- Subject: Re: Polyamory again (was Re: last night...)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.050230.6087@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:02:30 GMT
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- In article noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
- >
- >Our relationship has gotten closer because of it since ours is not built on
- >some stupid idea of possession and exclusive ownership, but one on giving.
- >I can't be all things to her, and she can't be all things to me. I choose to
- >love her unconditionally - that is the best form of love, imho. I will never
- >put the requirement of monogamy on my romantic partners - trying to restrict
- >another person on the matters of love is *not true love*. It can never deep
- >down lead to any kind of trust - it is an inherently untrustworthy act to
- >demand monogamy - do you want to build a close relationship on such a
- >foundation? If a person chooses truly on their own to be monogamous that is
- >great - they are doing it because of their love for their partner. But to
- >*demand* it of others is not right, for me at least. Monogamy is a fine and
- >workable lifestyle option (actually the default in our culture at this time)
- >if both people of the relationship are *truly* committed to it - it *only
- >works* to enhance the relationship when both *voluntarily* choose monogamy
- >because of love for their partner and not because it was taught as the only
- >way to be in our obsessively uptight monogamous culture.
- >
-
- Some points that might be worthwhile in considering...
-
- Polyamory is, I completely agree, a perfectly acceptible type of
- relationship, but despite your avowal of it as an alternative, you do lob
- a few blows directly at the concept of monogamy that I think reveals a
- misunderstanding of what and why people may prefer monogamy.
-
- Monogamy is not, I feel, a matter of possessing your partner, nor
- is is a matter of trust even, as you correctly, I think, pointed out, trust
- should not require that you be looking over one's partner's shoulder --
- such is hardly what can be construed as trust.
-
- To me, at least, I prefer monogamy, demand it in any long-term
- relationship I might undertake or have undertaken, simply because it is a
- matter of rapport, or, to put it another way, complete and utter focus
- in that aspect of one's life. One can certainly love any number of people;
- as it has been stated, the more people you love, the more you CAN love,
- but rapport or focus is by definition a thing that can be done with only
- one person at a time. This is not love, per se, though it generally requires
- love; it is not "becoming" the other person, it is matching the other
- person.
-
- People need and want and desire different things in my experience
- (think Myer-Briggs as a good example of this, for those who know of it),
- and what I described above is what *I* want and desire. For others, it is
- irrelevant, and love alone is perfectly satsfactory. For some, even that is
- not desired on any deep level. Matter of taste, matter of personality. The
- upshoot is, tho' polyamory is perfectly fine, moral, what-have-you, I feel
- it is unfair to label monogomy in the terms you have.
-
- Geoff Tuffli
- The Green Griffin
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