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- From: pwd@Apple.com (Patrick W. P. Dirks)
- Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
- Subject: Re: Scanners in Airports and on Planes
- Message-ID: <pwd-250193142352@thunder.apple.com>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 22:46:35 GMT
- References: <C1Dsrv.4uE@world.std.com>
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- In article <C1Dsrv.4uE@world.std.com>, rcooper@world.std.com (ron w cooper)
- wrote:
- >
- > Does anyone have any experience using a scanner in a major airport? Do
- > the security guys give you any trouble ? Are there any rules (FAA etc)
- > that prohibit you from using a scanner on planes ?
- >
- > Ron Cooper
-
- There's no law, to the best of my knowledge, that would keep you from using
- your scanner on (or near) the airport ON THE GROUND. Inside the plane,
- definitely while airborne, various FAA regulations come into play. The FAA
- is concerned with flight safety far more than with passenger entertainment
- and the rules specifically prohibit the operation of ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE
- not specially approved for use as an aviation instrument. The rules were
- made out of concern over electronic interference with the plane's
- instruments, notably the navigation gear. In practice, airlines will allow
- you to use your portable computer (great electromagnetic noise generators)
- on-board these days and there's been no reported case, as far as I know, of
- a plane crashing due to EMI problems: the plane's electronics are actually
- very nicely shielded. Nevertheless, from a strict legal perspective,
- you're not allowed to use a scanner on-board.
-
- I own a scanner and I do enjoy listening along on airplane trips. When I
- board, I just poke my head into the cockpit and politely ask the captain
- whether they would have any problem if I LISTENED [I find that's less
- worrisome than "use", which immediately prompts the "does it transmit?"
- question] to my scanner in-flight. They usually ask what it is, what I
- want to listen to, and 4 out of 5 times don't mind at all. I usually tell
- them where I'm sitting in case they should notice anything unusual.
- Sometimes I'll ask if they've been assigned a departure frequency yet, and
- which airtraffic control centers they expect to traverse during the trip.
- I've had encountered crews who were really surprised such a small gadget (I
- have a RS PRO-43) could listen in on everything and wanted to know where I
- bought it and what it cost. I've been offered quick tours of the flight
- deck as a fellow aviation enthusiast, and I've had the captain offer to
- clue me in on their current in-flight frequency any time I lost them during
- the flight - just ask the flight attendant to call the flight deck any
- time.
-
- I think it's only reasonable to ask the captain's permission: after all,
- they're responsible for the safety of the flight. There's also no
- substitute for being able to tell concerned flight attendants that "I
- checked with the captain and it's OK". Finally, as I mentioned above, I've
- had some surprising side benefits from polite inquiries.
-
- So ask, and have fun!
- -Pat Dirks.
-