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- From: violett@indiana.edu (Andrew Violette ,,,)
- Subject: Re: Evidence for the market
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- References: <1993Jan22.000657.18076@zooid.guild.org>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:14:02 GMT
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- In article 18076@zooid.guild.org, Jose Garcia <jgarcia@zooid.guild.org> () writes:
- >violett@indiana.edu writes:
- >>I am a little bit confused as to what your definition of free market is. A
- >>free market defined only under "limited circumstances" is not a free market,
- >>it is a regulated market. I guess in this context Gorbachev, Clinton, and
- >>anybody else more liberal than Stalin, is pro-free-market.
-
- > Then you (or was it someone else) have referred to Japan as a free
- >market. I allways hear people using Japan as an example of what a free market
- >can do. These examples are flawed. The U.S.A is a much more free market than
- >Japan and although its economy is strong hasn't being doing very well.
- >
- > Japan is a country with massive trade restrictions, not to mention
- >government telling companies what to do in a very active way.
- >
- > Does this sound like a free market to you?
- >
-
- It WAS someone else. There has never existed a true free market
- any where in the world. I would say that America in the late nineteenth
- century was about as close as any society has every gotten to a free
- market. What I was trying to clear up was that "free market" is an
- absolute term. You cannot be pro-free-market and promote ANY kind
- regulations. This is why it makes me laugh when Bill Clinton says he is
- pro-free-market.
-
- I think we can mainly trace this ignorance of the term "free market" back
- to our schools. Enroll in any political science class or economics class at
- IU and I gaurantee you that Karl Marx or Keynes will be mentioned. But
- you will never hear about their counterparts: Ayn Rand and Hayek. Until
- our society clears up this usage, and stops associating every person who
- promotes some kind of market system with a free market, will we ever emerge
- from this quagmire of socialism.
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- Andrew Violette
- Junior, Computer Science
- Indiana University
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