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- From: hugh@mks.com (Hugh Brown)
- Subject: Re: Letting Someone Drown
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.224324.8319@mks.com>
- Summary: Start in epistemology
- Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:43:24 GMT
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- Most often when two people have a disagreement in philosophy, and especially
- so when the disputed philosophy is Objectivism, the disagreement almost never
- concerns the putative topic at hand. Debates about Objectivist politics
- usually have their roots in ethics or earlier, disputes in ethics are
- centered in epistemology, and epistemological differences are traceable to
- metaphysics. Usually, I say: not always, but usually.
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- The most recent thread about whether Objectivism mandates a certain ethical
- position on the rescue of people in peril is a case in point. Various
- situations were put forward: whether one must saving drowning people, one's
- responsibilities in preserving people who wander into the path of your car,
- whether people who die while saving imperilled snowmobilers are acting
- morally.
-
- These are admittedly marginal issues, but those who presented the case for
- saving unfortunates worked hard to show that Objectivism amounts to one of two
- things. On the one hand, they would be satisfied to show that Objectivism is
- a shallow relativism that amounts to vacuous subjectivism: that Objectivism
- morality is whatever an Objectivist feels it should be. They would also be
- satisfied to show that it is dogmatic and inflexible, that it asserts that
- there is a single answer for all men, at all times. They will accept that
- morality is divorced from reality and is subjective, or they will accept that
- ethics is separate from consciousness and intrinsic. What they will not
- accept is that ethics can be objective: that "the good is neither an
- attribute of 'things in themselves' nor of man's emotional states but an
- evaluation of the facts of reality by man's consciousness according to a
- rational standard of value."
-
- The Objectivist literature is replete with examples and elaborations on the
- relationship of one's mind and reality, how that is related to knowledge in
- all areas of human action (ethics included), what role consciousness plays,
- what reality has to do with it, why man's nature is important. In all these
- cases, though, ethics is but one important, specialized branch of knowledge.
- Acceptance of this epistemology is presupposed in the explanation of the
- ethics, and rejection of it understandably leads to the rejection of
- conclusions in ethics. So I find it significant that the dismissal of
- Objectivist ethics in the questions posed in this news group are linked to
- the epistemological categories of intrinsicism and subjectivism.
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- The ethical question is not central to the debate. Resolution of this
- question could not be satisfactorily achieved without gaining agreement on
- Objectivist epistemology, knowledge, rationality, and objectivity. It is
- pointless to continue any discussion of the moral questions unless a
- corresponding effort is made to address the logically prior question. Those
- who wish clarification of the Objectivist ethics could first make clear
- either their acceptance or rejection of the Objectivist epistemological
- concepts and proceed from there. I think this would be far more illuminating
- than the continuing debate on an issue that cannot be resolved without some
- preceding agreement.
-
- Hugh
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