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- From: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman)
- Subject: Re: On the subject of Kant..
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- References: <C0JL60.Jww@newcastle.ac.uk> <1993Jan8.195542.27667@shearson.com> <C0nJw2.FEx@newcastle.ac.uk> <1993Jan13.023535.13045@shearson.com> <C0wpF7.8EB@newcastle.ac.uk> <mcdermot-200193081625@138.242.64.152> <1993Jan21.090624.27977@ulrik.uio.no>,<mcdermot-210193065943@138.242.64.152>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:51:54 GMT
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- In article <mcdermot-210193065943@138.242.64.152>, mcdermot@mdd.comm.mot.com (Steven McDermott) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan21.090624.27977@ulrik.uio.no>, solan@smauguio.no (Svein
- >Olav G. Nyberg) wrote:
- >>
- >> Steven McDermott on brains in bottles:
- >> |> Of course, if objective reality did exist, it might change and take our
- >> |> perceptions along with it. If everyone perceived the change would that
- >> |> count as evidence?
- >>
- >> "Everybody"? If you're a brain in a bottle, you normally don't
- >> consider the existence of other brains in bottles.
- >
- >The whole premise behind the brains in a bottle argument is that you don't
- >know you are one. You still "seem" to interact with others and "reality" as
- >if you were a person and not a bottle-brain.
- >
- >Does anyone know of a logically consistent counter argument to the
- >brain-in-the-bottle argument?
-
- SG Argument is connected to reality but BITB "argument" start by denying
- this, so its not an argument. Fallacy of self-exclusion. Always identify the
- context of an idea before getting inside it. Metaphysics first, then
- epistemology.
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- "In that world, you'll be able to rise in the morning with the spirit
- you had known in your childhood: that spirit of eagerness, adventure and cer-
- tainty which comes from dealing with a rational universe."
- AYN RAND
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- Stephen Grossman <PMSC13SG@UMASSD.EDU>
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