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- From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
- Newsgroups: alt.philosophy.objectivism
- Subject: Re: GOD.
- Keywords: god
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.223438.29591@netcom.com>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 22:34:38 GMT
- References: <1993Jan25.212250.24118@crash>
- Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
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- mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:
- > The human mind is a passive system for the processing of
- >information. Intellect, personality, and ideas are formed through
- >interaction with one's environment and no one can achieve active
- >thought to allow perception beyond that dictated by experience.
- >Anything that any of us ever does is a reaction to established
- >elements of the outer environment (the space beyond our bodies) or
- >the inner environment (bodily functions). Everything we do, we do
- >for a reason. Everything we do, we are moved to do, because we
- >are creatures of reaction, and not of action. Reasons for reaction
- >are irrelevant at this point; they may be moral reasons or immoral
- >reasons or good reasons or bad reasons or obvious reasons or incon-
- >spicuous ones.
-
- Wrong! The neat thing about the human mind is that it is *not* a passive
- reactor. We continually run simulations on our mental models, consciously
- and unconsciously. These models need not be corroborated by verifying
- experiences initially: they are usually preliminary tests of potential models.
- Simulations help us to disqualify bad models before we commit to having
- them judged by reality. They also help us to learn what else we need to learn
- before committing to them. An intelligent person projects himself into the
- future to see what it's like living there. The projective mechanism holds
- a balance between betting on chancy models and disqualifying them outright.
-
- > Progress of any kind is due to a flaw of human information
- >processing which distorts incoming information based on the way in
- >which one's mind is shaped by his/her inner and outer environments.
- >Our minds divide environments into attention areas based on our
- >experience and personal biases. Insight, the element common to all
- >revered figures of history, is a chance defying of logical reasoning
- >which reveals a novel and/or better method of information processing.
- >Logic itself can only proceed along mental pathways already defined
- >by experience. The best way to innovate is not by engaging in lo-
- >gical thought; the best way to innovate is by making a mistake, be-
- >cause logic is simply a process involving one reaction after another
- >which deliberately avoids any seemingly irrelevant or contradictory
- >information.
-
- Wrong in specifics! See the previous paragraph. Insight is the result of an
- adventurous mind and sheer good luck. The "flaw" you refer to derives from
- scheduling chaos in a rather wet multiprocessing computer. Since this
- gives us such a powerful tool for survival, how do you justify calling
- it a flaw? It is corroborating evidence for evolution: finding new uses
- for existing structures and mechanisms, which can then be extrapolated and
- strengthened.
-
- > One cannot conceive of God when one cannot conceive of a
- >being which occurs beyond the limits of time. Because humans are
- >unavoidably limited to existence within the confines of time, which
- >happens to describe our terms of being, everything for many of
- >us must have a beginning and, in most cases, an end. Therefore,
- >lots of us will be puzzled by the assertion that God was created by
- >nothing and no one and "has always" existed and "always will" exist.
-
- If you can accept a god that has no beginning or end, why not a universe
- with no beginning or end?
-
- Steve abell@netcom.com
-