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- From: ccmlh@buitc.bu.edu (Mark Hayes)
- Newsgroups: alt.philosophy.objectivism
- Subject: Certainly, Statism, and Toilet-Training
- Message-ID: <108330@bu.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 18:29:37 GMT
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- Originator: ccmlh@buitc.bu.edu
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- leon@cs.weber.edu (Leon D. Atkinson) says:
-
- > ... If one understands something, then one can
- >be certain of the behavior of that object. Gee, that wasn't too hard
- >to understand. I guess there is a relationship between certainty and
- >understanding afterall.
-
- Not at all hard to understand, Leon, just wrong. Many people would
- claim to understand many things, but only a handful of arrogant
- types such as yourself would claim certainty about them. Particularly
- when it comes to your favorite specialty, "reality", on the subject
- of which you quote me:
-
- >|> Such arrogance is bad enough when restricted to a relatively limited
- >|> subject like economics or government. But it becomes positively comical
- >|> when it takes the form of proclamations that one "understands reality"
- >|> (whatever *that* is supposed to mean).
-
- >This statement seems to suggest that YOU don't understand.
-
- Ah, a potent logical refutation if there ever was one.
-
- >And, given the fact you've been polluting the newgroup with trite, selfless
- >statist philosopy for so many weeks ...
-
- Whatever have *you* been reading, oh, Objective one? I realize it's
- hard for you to break out of the habit of dribbling Randroid cliches
- in response to any challenge, but I have never advocated anything
- that might reasonably be called "statist". As for "selfless",
- I assume that's just your way of saying that I've advocated an
- ethical code that includes obligations to others, so I'll let
- you have it, silly though it may be.
-
- >3) You simply refuse to accept anything that is contrary to your arbitrary
- >beliefs because it threatens some irrational teddy bear you've got hidden
- >in your subconscious.
-
- Sure, and you were toilet-trained prematurely. Give us all a break,
- OK, from this kind of cheap shot? Anyway, I revise my views
- quite readily, when presented with persuasive arguments to the
- contrary. Anyway, again, I'll let you slide with the "arbitrary",
- since I assume it's just another code word for "non-Randian".
- You'd certainly be hard-pressed to justify the charge otherwise.
-