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  1. Newsgroups: alt.feminism
  2. Path: sparky!uunet!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!payner
  3. From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
  4. Subject: Re: Feminist=Equality? Errrr.... Nope.
  5. Message-ID: <1993Jan24.040524.3166@netcom.com>
  6. Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
  7. References: <1j7rusINN7hm@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> <1993Jan16.023816.25795@hellgate.utah.edu> <1993Jan17.171416.24249@nmsu.edu>
  8. Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:05:24 GMT
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  11. In article <1993Jan17.171416.24249@nmsu.edu> dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg) writes:
  12. >In article <1993Jan16.023816.25795@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt) writes:
  13. >
  14. >(stuff deleted)
  15. >>  And of course, the only reason why women get paid 2/3 of
  16. >>what a man gets paid for the same job is that women do 1/3 less work.
  17. >
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  19. >O.K., I'm calling you on this.  You wrote this in the present tense
  20. >and without qualifiers like, "I know a woman who gets..."  O.K., let's
  21. >see some evidence that women get paid 2/3 that of men for doing _the
  22. >same job_.  Finding evidence for THAT should keep you busy...
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  25. Well, this was in the Mercury news on 17 Jan 1993.
  26.  
  27. Salary levels and pay raise outlook (from the College Placement Salary
  28. Level Survey, a survey with over 2000 respondents, pay raise data ommitted)
  29.  
  30.                   Sept 1991                       July 1992
  31.  
  32. Average opening salary    Male        Female        Male        Female    
  33.  
  34. Accounting        $26,971        $29,318        $27,404        $27,327
  35. Advertising        $22,526        $20,963        $22,048        $20,796
  36. Elementary Education    $21,546        $19,158        $22,676        $20,176
  37. Phychology        $21,956        $19,677        $22,034        $19,647
  38. Mechanical Engineering    $33,893        $34,488        $34,328        $35,561
  39. Agribusiness        $23,717        $22,959        $23,328        $24,155
  40. Computer Science    $30,558        $31,074        $31,132        $31,289
  41. Mathematics        $28,236        $26,759        $30,785        $26,853
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  44. I do not know what the biases of the study are, or how representative these
  45. numbers are, but unless they are grossly innacurate, women are not making
  46. $.59/$1.00. If this claim has indeed become an urban legend, then the actual
  47. numbers do not matter.
  48.  
  49. >-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
  50. >       (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
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  53. Rich
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  55. payner@netcom.com
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