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- From: mjw@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Alien)
- Subject: Re: Hobbits, again
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- References: <1j4dvaINNjil@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> <1993Jan15.175944.6937@mcs.kent.edu> <1993Jan15.221104.14089@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:29:37 GMT
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- >languages of England's past. The Rohirrim are clearly modelled on the Anglo-
- >Saxons (or at least on literary representations of them). This is apparent
- >from their language, their names, their physical appearance, their skill with
- >horses, their customs, and even their buildings-- Theoden's Golden Hall comes
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- The Anglo-Saxons were *not* horse riders!!!!!! But you could call the Rohirrim
- 'Saxons on horse-back'.
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- >right out of Heorot in Beowulf. The hobbits, on the other hand, are modelled
- >on a romantacized version of pre-industrial English yeoman farmers. This is
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- Pre-industrial??! More probably ,I submit, on yeomanry of Tolkien's own time
- that is *if* you must insist on drawing an exact analogy. "Allegory I
- cordially detest" -JRRT.
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- >evident from their language, the names of the places they live (i.e. the
- >Shire, Southfarthing, Bag End, etc.), their social arrangements, their
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- Names do not change with epochs except very slowly.You should try looking at
- a map of the English home counties for some well-quaint names. You should should
- try visiting some of these places too!
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- >agricultural economy and technology, their food and drink, etc.
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- BTW thanks for all the stuff about Saxons and modern English! I thought everyone
- knew that English comes from Saxon (as well as Latin and Norman French) but
- if that was JRRT's influence then that's another feather to his cap.
- Point to consider tho': lots of Robin Hood type films make him a Saxon
- hero opposed to Norman tyranny ,so it's obvious that the saxon's identity
- was well known at least by the 40's
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- Matt.
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- |Matt now has a .signature file. Cor! aren't computers wonderful!|
- |So it's goodbye from me and it's auf wiedersehen von mich. |
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