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- From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
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- Subject: Re: MDMA and mushrooms
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.235837.6088@netcom.com>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 23:58:37 GMT
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- Stefo (an7592@anon.penet.fi) wrote:
- : After reading a recent posting on MDMA, I was struck by the similarity
- : of the reported effects of this drug with the effects I have experienced
- : after eating mushrooms of the Psylocybe(spel?) species.
- [...]
- : I wonder if any research has been done on MDMA vs. psylocibin. MDMA is known
- : to be neurotoxic -- perhaps the similar effects of these drugs also
- : means similar side-effects such as toxicity.
-
- As another writer noted, the evidence that MDMA is neurotoxic in humans (as
- opposed to rats) is considerably disputed. However, it's irrelevant:
-
- Psilocybin/psilocin and MDMA fall into totally different families of
- psychedelic drugs, and one would not expect them to have related
- side-effects. Psilocybin is in the tryptamine-derived (indole) family,
- along with LSD, DMT, etc.; MDMA is in the phenethylamine family, along with
- mescaline, MDA, etc.
-
- BTW, I would consider psilocybin and MDMA to have quite different effects,
- though I'm damned if I could say how. They're both euphoric, both cause
- powerful changes in patterns of thought. The description of MDMA as
- "empathogenic" or "entactogenic" points in the right direction, but I don't
- know how to describe the difference.
- -- Clifton
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