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- From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
- Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
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- In article <1993Jan26.013053.1166@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
- |> >|A person with twenty late loan payments is supposedly unfairly denied
- |> >|a mortage which is given to a person with only one late loan payment.
- |>
- |> >Says who? What does this have to do with the posted article?
- |>
- |> "Blacks and Hispanics do, for example, tend to have weaker
- |> credit ratings and greater debts than white applicants. That
- |> in turn, contributes to the higher minority
- |> mortgage rejection rates, the study's authors said."
-
- That is correct. The article goes on to say that this is why the new study was
- necessary. Old studies compared people with different credit records, but the new
- study only compared people with similar records.
-
- |> >|Now, if the government wanted to find
- |> >|actual racial bias, they could simply pick up the phone and call, say,
- |> >|the Society of Black Engineers.
- |>
- |> >Right. In any case, Terry, you're wrong.
- |>
- |> Since such "studies" never find a "minority" who was denied a mortgage
- |> who was a better credit risk than a "majority" who received a mortgage,
- |> but instead cook data showing poorer people receive fewer loans into
- |> a claim that people who are "minorities" are always denied loans, I doubt it.
-
- In this particular study many hundreds such minorities were found. You would
- expect this in the real world though. The reason why the study is significant
- is because it is more likely that a minority with a better credit record will
- lose out while a white with a worse record gets a loan, than it is for a white
- with a better credit record to lose out to a black with a worse record. There
- are a hundred different ways to say it. How ever you do, it stil amounts to a
- racial bias.
-
- Jason W. Solinsky
-