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- Path: sparky!uunet!psinntp!cmcl2!panix!sethb
- From: sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart)
- Subject: Re: History (was Re: alt.discrimination = alt.caucasian whining)
- Message-ID: <C1FuLs.38s@panix.com>
- Organization: Society for the Promulgation of Cruelty to the Clueless
- References: <93013.074202KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> <1993Jan15.010511.4963@panix.com> <1993Jan15.053458.13671@athena.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:53:52 GMT
- Lines: 33
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- In article <1993Jan15.053458.13671@athena.mit.edu> agoyo1@athena.mit.edu (Acee Agoyo) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan15.010511.4963@panix.com> sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart)
- > writes:
- >>And if you think that Europeans
- >>"stole" this country from the natives, I suggest you study some pre-
- >>Columbian history. They "stole" it from the tribe who "stole" it from
- >>the tribe who... who "stole" it from the first tribe to settle there.
- >No, I suggest that you study some history and understand why your attempt
- >to rid the American government of any of its blame in the hostile takeover
- >of the land on which Native Americans lived fails. If European explorers
- >didn't "steal" the land, where did it go?
-
- My point isn't that the Europeans didn't "steal" the land; rather,
- that the people they "stole" it from were equally thieves and had no
- better claim to it than the descendants and successors of those
- Europeans do now.
-
- >>As I mentioned above, many times it was other Native Americans.
- >Oh, I get it. The European explorers didn't steal any land at all! In fact
- >all of it is still owned by Native Americans as we speak! I guess there _is_
- >some great conspiracy occuring that I don't know about. Yes, everybody, the
- >USA is simply on rented by the American government! And I wonder why Native
- >Americans live below the poverty level? With the government paying rent,
- >there should be a great influx of money! Damn, I must be missing something. . .
-
- I see. You wish to group all the Native Americans as one single
- group. They tended to group themselves by tribes. If all land had to
- be returned to its original inhabitants (aside from the fact that
- almost no country on Earth would continue to exist; for instance,
- there were Whites in Japan before the Orientals moved in) then the
- tribes that the Europeans kicked out wouldn't own that land anyway.
-
- Seth
-