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- From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
- Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american
- Subject: Re: Institutional racism
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 02:54:18 GMT
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- In-reply-to: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu's message of 21 Jan 93 19:57:05 GMT
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- hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
- [...]
- |>How utterly and completely pathetic. When folks have "perfect"
- |>records, banks hop all over them. When folks have a non-perfect
- |>record (>80% of the applicants, btw), Whites are more likely than
- |>Blacks to be approved.
-
- |>The article makes perfectly clear that only groups of equal applicants
- |>were compared.
-
- |How do you decide that applicants are equal? There is no way to get a
- |complete list of all of the criteria involved; we have no way to codify
- |the information into an intelligible form. I have looked at far too
- |many applicants for support for graduate school not to realize how
- |inadequate the information available is for the purpose.
-
- They took the 39 attributes that banks/loaning institutes use, that's
- how. Not at all the same thing as picking a grad student, for
- heaven's sake.
-
- |The information supplied is not the person. I suggest that if you have
- |the necessary background, you look at a sound statistics book, and look
- |at the notion of "regression." It is valid here.
-
- If I look at one more stats book, I'll scream. I've had all the
- regression I can stand after reading my advisor's papers and
- references, thank you very much.
-
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