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- From: rezabek1037@iscsvax.uni.edu (Will be President for Food)
- Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
- Subject: Re: Diverting the cyberspace movement (was Re: Benedikt's Cyberspace)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.045739.10205@iscsvax.uni.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 10:57:39 GMT
- References: <727321554.AA06230@illusion.tpg.org> <1993Jan22.130843.10099@iscsvax.uni.edu> <COLIN.93Jan25133926@andros.Cayman.COM>
- Organization: University of Northern Iowa
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- In article <>, colin@Cayman.COM (Colin "Atilla" Steele) writes:
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- > Can you be more specific? What do you mean? What specific uses do
- > you have in mind for "cyberspace"?
-
- one would be a means for divergent individuals to BE CONSCIOUS OF determining
- their own culture, trans-geographically. this factor is already dawning on
- users; my schtick is simply to bring it to the attention of cultural theorists
- and "activists."
-
- > How do you intend to divert it? What tools and ideas do you have to do this?
-
- three main ones right now: 1: the metaphor of the MEME. 2: the metaphor of GAIA
- (and the Net as ad hoc "central nervous system of GAIA) 3: the approach to
- virtual culture suggested by individual need for re-contextualisation. fellows
- are met in virtuality first, and secondly in the flesh. cultural cross-exchange
- occurs naturally... (this is being tested empirically elsewhere, and by folks
- on the Net every day, i'd imagine, without knowing it. i'm largely speaking,
- though, of journeys beyond state borders at least...)
-
- > What do you think is going to happen to the movement as it exists now?
-
- it's going to keep moving. the movements with labels aren't the only ones.
- there are virtual communities out there who don't know WHY they're hanging out
- together, but are finding more and more self-organising interaction day by
- day... ultimately, what happens to a movement isn't important. it's what
- happens to an individual withIN that movement. and that is decided a person at
- a time. the movements will take care of themselves, if the previous models are
- all they're cracked up to be (fractal chaos, self-organising systems theory,
- information/memetic theory...)
-
- > Why is it collapsing in on itself?
-
- those localities that ARE collapsing on themselves are simply those who opt to
- ensconse or isolate themselves. actually, communities are expanding and
- contracting according to necessity. i really feel that communities won't so
- much "collapse" as much as be gobbled up and/or break apart due to internal
- strife.
-
- blah blah blah, much (almost)idle speculation...
-
- .rez
-