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- From: rburns@StarConn.com (Randall J. Burns)
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- Subject: Re: Schmidling the Populist
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.001917.2261@StarConn.com>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 00:19:17 GMT
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- In article <C1J7GM.7JE@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> monaghan@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (N.O. Monaghan) writes:
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- >As far as I have been informed by postings on this group, Bo Gritz is
- >certainly not a fascist - quite the opposite - is he advocating
- >governmental control and direction of the economy in America. The answer
- >is very simply: NO.
- All this means is that the groups with which he has attempted to appeal
- to see little advantage to themselves in centralized government institutions.
- Gritz' ex running mate Duke is an example of someone who went from being
- enamored with Adolph Hitler to attempting to gain respectability within the
- Republican party.
-
- Now, the original Nazi's weren't all that attached to their economic
- agenda either. Hitler started out with cadre of Nazi's that were quite
- ideologically attached to a left-wing economic agenda(the predecessor of
- the organization Hitler took over called itself "The Kaiser's
- Socialists"). Many of the leaders of the economically left-wing Nazi's
- eventually got purged.
-
- My feeling here is that Hitler faced a fundamentally different
- population than did Gritz. Economic centralism has almost always had
- more appeal in Germany than in the English speaking countries.
- The Nazi leaders were, from what I can see more concerned with bringing
- order out of a rather chaotic situation in Germany than any particular
- economic agenda(thus Hitlers willingness to cut a deal with large
- industrialists when the opportunity presented itself). Since over 1/3 of
- the German electorate were Socialists or communists, any
- attempt to reach a "fair consensus" needed to take their interests
- into account. A lot of what they saw themselves as attempting to
- accomplish was _unifying_ a people who were seperated by "foreign"
- ideologies.
-
- The United States has a much more decentralist tradition than Germany.
- Gritz and Duke have simply been trying to adopt to a different set of
- political realities. I honestly doubt very much if they are any more
- attached to their present agenda than was Hitler. From what I can see,
- Duke is attempting to create consensus among some widely disparate
- groups just has Hitler did. He pays lip service to alternative healing,
- Mormonism, Christian Identity, Libertarian economics, right-wing
- conspiracy theory and blue collar jingoism depending on the audience.
-