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- From: ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker)
- Subject: Re: CFR
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.060839.2467@news.ysu.edu>
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- Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:08:39 GMT
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- Ted, your attempts at reason would be funny if they weren't so pathetic.
- What evidence would I accept? What evidence have you presented? If you
- could show me covincing indications that the CFR membership as published
- is false, that the organizational positions attributed to these individuals
- in various reference works are not the ones they actually hold, that they
- do not use the ideas presented by various speakers at CFR events as a
- conceptual basis for their decision making, that they don't network with
- one another and that that they don't talk about politics, economics or
- current events at CFR functions, then I might consider the possibility
- that your stance had some merit. Good luck.
-
- Your comparison with a golf club reaches new heights. May I simply remind
- you that unlike a golf club, the AVOWED PURPOSE of the CFR is to discuss
- "policy". You seem to be unwilling to acknowledge that. Also, the practice
- of requiring members not to reveal what is discussed at sessions seems to
- indicate something a little heavier than the casual social outing.
-
- Also, you are missing the point if you think I brought up the fact that
- much of what the CFR does is publically known as EVIDENCE of their
- conspiratorial nature. Their conspiratorial nature is obvious "prima
- facie" simply by combining the names on the membership list with the
- avowed purpose of the organization. My pointing out how much of this
- stuff occurs at least semi-openly was descriptive, not evidentiary.
- For precedents see Poe's "The Purloined Letter". You may also be
- interested in H.G. Wells's "The Open Conspiracy", Marylin Ferguson's
- "The Aquarian Conspiracy" or any historical material on the Fabian
- Society, which also practiced semi-public conspiratorial methods.
-
- Ted, I suggest that if you want to defend the CFR against the kind
- of criticism they get here, you might want to find out a little
- more about them. On the other hand, perhaps when defending
- consistently incorrect positions, ignorance is actually an asset.
- It is a good way to keep from getting confused by the facts.
-
- -Steve
-