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- From: hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden)
- Subject: Re: Science Superior to Mysticism
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.233845.8255@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:38:45 GMT
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- In article <C19yx9.ID5@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, mukesh@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Mukesh Prasad) writes:
- |>
- |> Scientism? Is this a new word?
-
- No. It comes from psychology and philosophy. I first came across it in a book
- published in 1983. Since then I have seen it many times. If interested drop me
- a line and I'll dig up some references. If it becomes common enough I expect
- it will appear in dictionaries at some stage. It (i.e. scientism itself) is
- gradually becoming a subject for study.
-
- |> So your definition involves "others"? In other words, is "science" as
- |> you see it, primarily a social concern? In that case, is it
- |> really very different from any other religion?
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- It includes many religious practices. But see the following -
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- In article <24JAN93.17433003@skyfox>, meagher@skyfox
- >In a previous article, hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden) wrote:
- >
- >Science is not a religion. It is a method created by human beings to find
- >things out, as best as one can. It can be applied to anything.
- >
- >
- > The idea that science can be applied to anything is, I believe, false.
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- Science is based on observation. I think this can be applied to far more than
- you realise, if you open up your methods of observation.
-
- But still, it is true that science has limits. These are real, and not
- artificial. There are two modes of knowing; the first (science) is based on
- observation, the second is based on "being". As an example - I know things
- exist because I can see them with my eyes. This is observation, the first mode
- of knowing. However, my eyes can't see themselves. So by observation, I cannot
- know that I have eyes. It is by the second mode of knowing that I know I have
- eyes, because I can see.
-
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- --
- Hugh Garsden
- University of Sydney
- hughg@ee.su.oz.au
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