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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [ucb.org.csua, et al.] Re: The Schedule of Classes
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- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:54:59 GMT
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- [A repost - Carl]
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- From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
- Subject: Re: The Schedule of Classes
- Message-ID: <JMC.93Jan21231123@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 23:11:23
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- In article <1jo3d5$t34@agate.berkeley.edu> zyin@soda.berkeley.edu (Zheng Yin) writes:
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- From: zyin@soda.berkeley.edu (Zheng Yin)
- Newsgroups: ucb.org.csua,ucb.org.ocf,ucb.english,talk.environment,comp.org.eff.talk
- Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:15:01 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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- In article <1jnh89$phg@agate.berkeley.edu> hh@soda.berkeley.edu (Eric Hollander) writes:
- >I believe that computers exist to provide access to information. Using a
- >computer to give me this access can never be misuse.
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- Such an interpretation would license you to engage in activities not as
- "altrustic" as your transfer of Schedule of Classes data, such as access
- and probably alternation of the academic record of any student. The
- University, the government, and millions of individuals handle data on
- computers and over networks. This by no means implies that you can insert
- your own computer into their network and gain access to their information,
- with impunity.
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- What I understand he did in replacing his terminal by a powerbook was
- to take information available one class at a time and use it to get
- the schedule as a whole. It is a nice point as to whether the
- University could claim that the whole is confidential, although each
- of its parts is not.
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- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
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- He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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- Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
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